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Old 09-08-2015, 04:14 PM   #1
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Camco Swivel Stik won't enter black tank

I have a Jayco Feather Ultralite x20e with a Thetford toilet and WESCO plumbing system. I bought a Camco RV Flexible Swivel Stik holding tank rinser to clean out our black water tank. However, there appears to be a metal beam running front to back just under the toilet preventing the Stik from entering the black tank. Anyone know whether it's possible to get the Stik into the tank and, if so, how to do it? Thanks much, John K.
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:05 PM   #2
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John, I don't understand this post. Are you saying there is a metal beam that runs across the toilet closet flange? That seems like a design defect.

What I think you meant was you are trying to shove the wand into the tank from the dump valve.

The old fashioned non-flexible wand that I own is intended to be stuck down the commode and into the tank from ABOVE.
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:30 PM   #3
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Turn off the trailer water and place wand in commode, flush commode (open) turn water on, flush in side tank.
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Sorry, ctbailey, about not being more clear about our problem. I wasn't trying to push the Stik into the outside pipe through which we empty the black tank. And I'm not exactly sure what the toilet closet flange is, even after reading online about it. Anyway, here it is: when I'm inside the bathroom that is inside our 2012 Jayco Feather Ultralite x20e, I open the toilet lid, press down on the foot pedal so the bottom opens up and I can see below the toilet although there is water that obscures much of what is there. I put the Stik down the toilet several inches and it clanks against something metal, possibly a beam that is positioned front to back. I tried finagling the Stik to the left and right to find an opening into the black tank without success. There must be an opening, of course. So I'm wondering whether there is some trick or maneuver to getting the Stik into the black tank? Thanks much.
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I think you need to shut off the water to the trailer and turn off the water pump. Get a flash light. Press the toilet pedal and look down the hole and see what you see. Don't drop the flash light and I suggest you turn off the bathroom exhaust fan while you do this.
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Old 09-10-2015, 06:18 PM   #6
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John, you're doing it right. There is no beam down there. You are likely clanging into the wall of the tank. The WORST CASE would be you are hitting the vent pipe that has fallen into the tank. A 2012 unit this would be very unlikely.

Maybe someone flushed a plastic fork. That could possibly bridge across the outlet, and catch debris.?

I wish we RVers had a cheap way of sending a lighted video camera down there. That would remove all doubt as to what you are feeling the sprayer hit.
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Old 09-10-2015, 07:26 PM   #7
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In response to Hohenwald48: The trailer's water and electricity are switched off, and have been for several weeks (so no chance of accidentally hitting the fan switch and getting a blast of the past in my face). I don't know why there is water below the toilet when I open the toilet lid and look down. I've used a flashlight but haven't been able to determine what this metal piece is that I'm hitting with the end of the Stik. I guess I'll write to Jayco and get their 2 cents worth. It's just so frustrating, isn't it?
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I'm not sure I understand. There is usually water in the tank. The toilet dumps directly into the tank. When you look thru the toilet you are looking directly into the tank. There is normally a bit of residual water in the bottom of the tank as it almost never drains completely when you dump the tank.

Is it possible you are simply hitting the bottom of the tank and thinking it's some kind of obstruction? On mine, from the flush valve in the bottom of the toilet to the bottom of the tank is only about a foot and a half if that much. The tank itself is only 6-8" deep.


It's actually pretty easy to disconnect the water from the toilet, remove the 2 closet bolts on either side of the toilet and remove the toilet if that would help. It only takes about 10 minutes to do that.
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I had the same issue. The Black Tank is not very deep so when you put in the wand, it almost immediately bottoms out. So to get around that I purchased a couple of the Camco Tornado Flushes. One for the Black and One for the Grey. They work great and are accessible from the outside. I will only flush from the inside now when winterizing to ensure a good thorough cleaning.
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Maybe not on this model but mine and others have a 90 degree bend in the pipe before it enters the tank. I have to use a flexible wand and it not real effective.
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