Confused re: Jayflight 2015/2016

[jsallman1]

Originally Posted by protege-five

Thank you for your reply, I have the following numbers but I am not sure how to do the math.
GCWR 15000lb
Combined weight and cargo 1507lb
GVWR 7000lb
GAWR FR 3950lb
GAWR Rear 3950lb
Axe ratio 3.42

Equalizer system

Did I missed a number and can someone can show me how to do the math. Thank you

If thats off your door jamb sticker, the 1507lb is what your going to want your passengers, cargo, and tongue weight on your truck to be under I believe to be in your manufacturer limits. It likely counts for a driver and full tank of gas, so you don't have to take that into account. Passengers, stuff in the truck, accessories on the truck (after market running boards, bed liner, topper, etc) , stuff in the bed of the truck, the hitch, and the actual tongue weight of the camper you will have to account for.

The 28BHBE maxes at 9250lbs (GVWR per the jayco site), so your tongue weight if the trailer is maxed figuring 12% tongue weight (some like a little higher) will be 1110lbs (9250*.12), leaving you a little under 400 lbs for all passengers and cargo in your truck plus the weight distribution hitch. (1507-1110). This is WORST case unless your trailer is overloaded.

If you don't load the trailer heavy, tow it without water in it, etc, that will all lessen these numbers and give you more wiggle room, but its gonna be close. One thing you DON'T want to do is load the trailer too back heavy, you want around 12% (I have seen people say 10%-14%, so its an average) of the total weight on the tongue or it wont tow well. At a minimum, you should take the weight off the yellow weight sticker on the side of the trailer (not jayco.com) and take 12% of that, but honestly that number on the trailer seems to be quite low from my experiences. I don't think it will include a battery, tanks, definitely no cargo.

One thing to consider, I bought a Sherline scale, available on Amazon or Ebay, when I found out about all this. Just make sure you get the 2000lb one.

http://www.amazon.com/Sherline-LM-20...s=tongue+scale

I would hope you should be able to take it to a dealer and ask them to stick the tongue on it for you I would think, if they have a problem with that, find another dealer. That will give you a good idea on your MINIMUM tongue weight, keep in mind the Battery, LP, and cargo will add to that number somewhat, but some of it will be supported by the axle on the trailer. I wish I had done that prior to buying, probably would have bought a different model Trailer in the 26-27 foot range instead of a different truck.

Also don't expect the dealer at a Truck lot or a camper lot to be well educated on this topic, I learned most of this right here on this site, and then verified it by reading the truck manuals, truck towing guide (available online) etc, which I would encourage if you haven't.

As someone who made the mistake of buying too much trailer which they thought was quite within the tow specs of the TV I had, and then upgrading a truck (mostly for peace of mind), I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone else.

[kohj1978]

wouldn't the WD hitch reduce some of the tongue weight by sending some of it the the tt axle also, and by doing so give him a little more wiggle room. Also on my TT info sticker it says the weight is with lp tanks an battery

[RAurand]

Originally Posted by kohj1978

wouldn't the WD hitch reduce some of the tongue weight by sending some of it the the tt axle also, and by doing so give him a little more wiggle room. Also on my TT info sticker it says the weight is with lp tanks an battery

The weight (yellow) sticker on my 2016 BHBE says " With full propane and generator fuel if applicable)
I don't have a generator but do have 2 - 40lb propane tanks that came with the trailer.

[need-a-vacation]

Originally Posted by protege-five

Sorry for the confusion, our new choice for our TT might be the Jayflight 28BHBE. (Elite Package-one a/c unit-...) Thank you even if we really like the floor plan of almost every floor plans from Jayco, our choice is still the 28BHBE. Thank you again

The thing you will want to watch is just how much you load in the front pass through, and what you load in the truck bed.

As has been mentioned, the payload is your limiting factor, with the RAR possibly right behind the payload. The payload amount listed on the yellow payload sticker does not include any passengers, not even the driver as one posted. The actual wording is "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed". A driver is an occupant.

If you have added a fiberglass topper, you may consider removing it during camping season. A short bed, cab high topper weighs about 200lbs. That is valuable payload.

If I recall, you posted you have an Equal-I-Zer wdh? Is it the 4 way model? Make sure the wd bars are the correct rating for the 28 BHBE once it is loaded up. From what has been posted about the 28 BHBE, you will want 1200lb bars if I remember correctly. 1000lb bars seem to be just about maxed out, if not over a little depending on how the trailer is loaded.

Good luck!!!

Originally Posted by kohj1978

wouldn't the WD hitch reduce some of the tongue weight by sending some of it the the tt axle also, and by doing so give him a little more wiggle room. Also on my TT info sticker it says the weight is with lp tanks an battery

Welcome!

Yes, a wdh. Does transfer some of the weight back to the trailer axles. You should still go by the "gross" tw (the weight you would get if you placed a scale under the coupler) in regards the tv receiver hitch rating and when selecting the correct wd bars. Concerning the "little more wiggle room", it will give some additional "room", but the wd bars won't transfer a lot of weight back.

The yellow sticker inside all newer trailers is the weight of that trailer as it rolled off the assembly line, including full propane tanks. The one thing I don''t believe is included in that weight is a battery. BUT the manufactures "brochure" weights do not include the weight of the full propane tanks. From what I understand the "brochure" weights do not include options, even those options that are "mandatory"... That's why it is a good idea to look at the yellow sticker in each trailer when shopping. With different options the weight will vary some.