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Old 09-30-2015, 11:37 AM   #1
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Confused re: Jayflight 2015/2016

We currently own a Jayco Jayflight 29BHS G2 2011 and might want to change it for a Jayflight with a bunkhouse and kitchen

We tow our current TT with a GMC Sierra 2013 Crew Cab Z71 with the 5.3 and the towing package (max towing cap is 9600 pounds) and with the Equalizer system.

So the 3 models we are more interested are-
1-29BHS
2-32BHDS
3-31QBDS

From my past experience it seems my 2 and 3 choice might be limit for my towing capacity but can someone from this forum can give me more information. On Jayco website it seems the weight are ok.

We are curently seasonal and we travel 2 or 3 times a year.

The G2 seems to be called now the Elite Package but I am not sure, is this package seems to be a good deal?

Do you have more suggestion on the models to be choose without having to change our pick-up.

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Old 09-30-2015, 01:59 PM   #2
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We have the Elite Package, and it was something we wanted due to all the things included.

Without knowing even just the "dry/brochure weights" of #1 & #3, I do know unless you pack light and don't carry anything in the truck bed, I don't see how you would stay under your payload, hitch tw rating, or possibly ra rating with the 32 BHDS.

Loaded our trailer is about 9200lbs (haven't reweighed) with about 1400lbs tw! Look in your drivers door for the yellow sticker, "Passengers and cargo bit to exceed XXXXlbs". What is that amount, about 1500lbs or so??? How much does the family weigh, how much in the truck bed, etc? The loaded tw counts towards the payload amount as well.

It was 8860lbs loaded, 1400lb tw, but without our boys stuff in the trailer (90% in the bunk room), or the rear cargo hitch mounted yet with bikes on the rear of the tt. Those weights are with all tanks empty as well... Not even 1g of fresh water in the tank (water lines/ water heater full though).

What is the "brochure weights" for the other two models?
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Not sure if any of those models will work pending family and cargo weight in the truck, and how you pack the trailer, including the pass through.

What about the new model, 27 BHS that replaces the 26 BHS????
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My DW and I have concluded we will caravan with 2 vehicles, because we are maxed out on Combined GVWR on the TV. Just this evening we looked at pickups, but only being 6 months into the note on the Explorer, we can't justify it. For what its worth, I plan to use the trailer's max GVWR rather than dry weight next time I buy. Factoring in passengers + 30# each for personal items and 12% tongue weight for the TV GVWR.
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We have the 31QBDS and love it. We are towing with a 2014 Silverado 1500 with 3.42 gears and the Equalizer WDH. We also installed the Roadmaster Active Suspension which we highly recommend. It really helped provide a better ride and reduced sway. I believe the max towing on the truck is 9,500 lbs with a 15,000 lbs max total weight. We are right at the limits when loaded (2 adults, 4 kids, bikes in the truck, with all other gear in the trailer, no water in the tanks). We maxed out the weight distribution after a couple trips to the CAT scales showed the dealer didn't push enough weight to the front axle of the truck. The truck pulls the trailer fine and if you adjust the brake controller correctly, it stops just fine as well. We took a 10 hour trip this summer and had no issues. We got about 8 mpg. We would highly recommend the trailer as we love the layout and you should be fine with your truck. Just be smart when loading the truck and trailer, keep an eye on the total weight of the truck, trailer, and gear, adjust the WDH and brake controller accurately, and take your time on the road.
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Chris,

What was your loaded trailer weight, and loaded tongue weight? With 6 passengers (4 still growing) and 4-6 bikes in the bed, you are still under the payload (gvwr) of your truck, and the rear axle rating?

As I mentioned, it is all about the payload of 1500/150 trucks. Regardless of the tow rating, in most cases a travel trailer just has to much tongue weight to be close to the tow rating of the truck. Flat bed/ open utility trailer is possible due to the lower tongue weight needed for a stable tow.

We towed our previous trailer, 31' oal Dutchmen, ~7200lbs loaded with a '10-1500 Silverado CCSB 5.3/6spd/3.42 4x4, and while it had plenty of power, I don't see how it would have even come close to handling a trailer much longer or heavier like our 32 BHDS is. Power wise it probably would have pulled it, but not handled the loaded trailer very well. I did have a cab high topper on that truck (about 200lbs), but we were just under the rear axle rating by 40lbs ( I think it was), and actually over the gvwr of the truck (7k lbs) by up to 200lbs depending on what we had in the bed of the truck. Only had a tool box, 4 bikes, and a few boards for leveling in the bed. That was with just under 1k lbs (loaded) tongue weight.

The brochure dry tongue (hitch) weight does not include a battery or propane tanks on the tongue. That alone adds about 160lbs for 2-30lb tanks and a battery.
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I do not have all the numbers at my fingertips right now but we were under all the payload and axle load ratings. In addition, the roadmaster suspension system actually increases the payload / tongue weight capacity, (but it does not change the axle capacity). The keys to staying within the truck capacities were maxing out the weight distribution, evenly distributing the payload weight in the truck and trailer, and spending some time at the CAT scales adjusting and re-adjusting to figure this all out. I also can't say enough about how much the roadmaster suspension system improved the stability and sway control.
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So a few months past since my last post on this topic...

Winter is over but it bring back the feeling after going to some RV shows,we might want to change our TT.

We have the same pick-up (Sierra 2013 crew, 5.3, towing package, z71)but the TT we are looking is now the Jayflight 28BHBE Elite package....

But I am seriously confused with all the numbers I have to take in consideration to tow. Yeah your truck is fine it can tow 9600. The yellow sticker of the TT is 6883.

Please can someday can help me to see what is the other number do I need and where to find it? Thank you
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So a few months past since my last post on this topic...

Winter is over but it bring back the feeling after going to some RV shows,we might want to change our TT.

We have the same pick-up (Sierra 2013 crew, 5.3, towing package, z71)but the TT we are looking is now the Jayflight 28BHBE Elite package....

But I am seriously confused with all the numbers I have to take in consideration to tow. Yeah your truck is fine it can tow 9600. The yellow sticker of the TT is 6883.

Please can someday can help me to see what is the other number do I need and where to find it? Thank you
PAYLOAD is the determining number.
The payload should include the trailer tongue weight, the weight of the WDH, the propane and battery, all the stuff you bring with you in the truck, sometimes it includes the people and the fuel in the truck as well.

For the 28BHBE being pulled by a 1/2 ton truck, it has been discussed on this forum many times in the past (do a search). You will probably be over the truck payload and or rear axle rating. If not you will be a few, and I mean a few pounds under a 1/2 ton truck payload with that trailer. Ideally you want to be under payload by 20%-30%. Not maxed out. Basically if you have to ask can my truck tow this, the answer is probably no.

Now you will get responses from people who tow the same trailer with the same truck telling you it tows great, no problem. There was even a guy on here who swears his X5 BMW is a wonderful tow vehicle for the 28BHBE! For me (I have a very similar trailer) if anything happened to my family due to my ignorance of my trucks tow capacity, I couldn't live with the guilt knowing I ignored the limits of my truck.

Anyway, good luck
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Protege-five as has been mentioned payload is your issue. If you want to know what your trucks actual payload is take it to the scales then subtract that weight from your GVWR. I bought a 29qbs last year thinking my 1500 could handle it. 9600 tow capacity, figured it'd be fine. Once reading about it and learning what all the numbers mean there is no way I could stay under my weights. My truck, with just me in it and a full tank of gas was 6072lbs. Add a hitch, propane, batteries and you are right there at the limit.

There is no way that 31qbds stayed under weight!! None of the add on's you do change what the truck can legally handle for payload or tow ratings. The number that's posted from factory is the # you have to go with. The add on's can and will change the way your truck handles a heavy load but not what's allowed by law.
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