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Old 03-12-2016, 12:22 PM   #11
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i haven't had a door separate but I had one that was warped. I did have a few end caps on my bedroom wardrobe slide fall apart, no leak anywhere, just cheap press wood that Jayco used.
Here is the gap in the pantry door

Here is the slide trim

Oh yea, and the cheap carpet trim they use also.

I'm glad Jayco has a 2 year warranty because i used it almost everytime I went out for the first 2 years.
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My doors have been separating like that for the last two winters.
My dealer said Jayco does not use glue.
I am now out of warranty, but my dealers is going to glue them for me at no charge.
They do use glue on the stiles and rails (a rail is what is separating) they do not use glue on the raised center panel. As said before this panel is floating and does not get glued in. Typically a space ball or small pieces of tubing is placed in the groove before the center panel is positioned. This hold the panel tight so it does not rattle but, does not stop if from moving with humidity etc. It is possible that the joint was starved of glue (should be able to see this) . Jayco purchases doors from a door mfg in Indiana. I doubt very much it is a panel that does not have adequate space to move. I agree humidity is most likely the cause. It should not be a huge fix from your picture. As said put wood glue in the joint, clamp it lightly, wiping off any glue squeeze out
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I had several doors whose joints separated. All I did was force some wood glue into the joints and clamp them till dry. The problem has not re-occurred.
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Sure looks like a lack of glue. But why. Another quality control issue, lazy workers, etc.


Is the RV industry just like GM, Ford, & Chrysler were in the 70's building cars?


It doesn't give me any reason to believe Jayco is any different than the other builders. Not really trying to be negative but this kind of workmanship ruffles my feathers. Look at joe in calif post. No excuse for some of this.


I know it happens on all types and prices of RV's. My new 2003 Monaco had a roof leak that soaked the carpet.


A 2 year warranty will help. Still waiting for my 23RLSW delivery and praying for minimal problems.


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when you buy sublet from vendors you have to question quality control
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Is the RV industry just like GM, Ford, & Chrysler were in the 70's building cars?
No. The RV industry really isn't like any other business. Kinda like a home on wheels
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You also have to understand the huge changes in humidity happening, sometimes many times a week. Wood moves, it's always going to move, Should doors separate no, but do doors separate yes. Even in AC humidity controlled stick homes. You take a unit, that pulled down the road, shifting and bouncing. Then heat it, cool it, take showers in close confinement, heat it again, cool it again, take into the woods, by water then drag it home close it up for weeks at a time and then do it all over again.. Yea I expect lots of movement, it's not lack of quality, or poor workmanship its very extreme usage. Squirt some wood glue in the joint, clean the glue off, clamp it and move on with your life. If you don't something maintenance free, well.. RVing may not be for you, or boating, or 100 other things.

Sorry for the rant, but I've been there seen that. I made doors, cabinets etc, not for RV's but for homes. We make sure the wood is dried correctly, glue and space balls are all done exactly correct, but. wood will move, I can guarantee that. Nothing anyone can do will change that. It's why we use "cheap press wood" (actually high quality, expensive material) for some applications. When we painted doors we used MDF, it moves less than solid wood. We also used one piece MDF and had CNC's that would carve a raised panel in it... much more expensive than "real wood" but also more stable.

Sorry for the rant. This is normal, and actually they have very few issues with this happening. I live in the desert I take my TT to the mountains.. then I come back to the desert. I make sure my humidity is controlled as much as possible. I place water inside when it's stored in the heat, it helps. I have only had a door or two that separated, took me less than 5 minutes to fix it. I was and still am happy with my Jayco, they give me a good unit at a very reasonable price. . I make mods to make it mine, I fix minor things when they happen, I look at that as part of the "fun" of owning an RV. I don't expect, nor did I pay for perfection, which is not possible anyway. I know my wallets limit and I know the limits of products.

JMHO. I apologize if I offended anyone.
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They do use glue on the stiles and rails (a rail is what is separating) they do not use glue on the raised center panel. As said before this panel is floating and does not get glued in. Typically a space ball or small pieces of tubing is placed in the groove before the center panel is positioned. This hold the panel tight so it does not rattle but, does not stop if from moving with humidity etc. It is possible that the joint was starved of glue (should be able to see this) . Jayco purchases doors from a door mfg in Indiana. I doubt very much it is a panel that does not have adequate space to move. I agree humidity is most likely the cause. It should not be a huge fix from your picture. As said put wood glue in the joint, clamp it lightly, wiping off any glue squeeze out
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You also have to understand the huge changes in humidity happening, sometimes many times a week. Wood moves, it's always going to move, Should doors separate no, but do doors separate yes. Even in AC humidity controlled stick homes. You take a unit, that pulled down the road, shifting and bouncing. Then heat it, cool it, take showers in close confinement, heat it again, cool it again, take into the woods, by water then drag it home close it up for weeks at a time and then do it all over again.. Yea I expect lots of movement, it's not lack of quality, or poor workmanship its very extreme usage. Squirt some wood glue in the joint, clean the glue off, clamp it and move on with your life. If you don't something maintenance free, well.. RVing may not be for you, or boating, or 100 other things.

Sorry for the rant, but I've been there seen that. I made doors, cabinets etc, not for RV's but for homes. We make sure the wood is dried correctly, glue and space balls are all done exactly correct, but. wood will move, I can guarantee that. Nothing anyone can do will change that. It's why we use "cheap press wood" (actually high quality, expensive material) for some applications. When we painted doors we used MDF, it moves less than solid wood. We also used one piece MDF and had CNC's that would carve a raised panel in it... much more expensive than "real wood" but also more stable.

Sorry for the rant. This is normal, and actually they have very few issues with this happening. I live in the desert I take my TT to the mountains.. then I come back to the desert. I make sure my humidity is controlled as much as possible. I place water inside when it's stored in the heat, it helps. I have only had a door or two that separated, took me less than 5 minutes to fix it. I was and still am happy with my Jayco, they give me a good unit at a very reasonable price. . I make mods to make it mine, I fix minor things when they happen, I look at that as part of the "fun" of owning an RV. I don't expect, nor did I pay for perfection, which is not possible anyway. I know my wallets limit and I know the limits of products.

JMHO. I apologize if I offended anyone.
If a panel door is properly made, it will not come apart, no matter how much the humidity and temperature swings. A properly glued joint will split the wood before the glue line fails.
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