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Old 05-29-2015, 10:01 AM   #1
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Deciding 28BHBE vs 28BHKS

We are trading in our Hybrid trailer and trying to decide between the 28BHBE (jayflight) and 28BHKS (whitehawk)

Both are significant upgrades from our 19H and both will fit our family well and have all the storage we need. It seems like the whitehawk has some nice upgrades but I'm not sure if they are enough to justify the extra $$.

I'm wondering if anyone can talk about the difference in the trailer between these two. The Whitehawk has the more sloped front and the wheels are set a little differently. According to the sales guy this make for a nicer trailering experience. The fact that it comes in at 500lbs less probably also helps with that (that weight is at it sits on the lot with the Propane full)

I believe our tow vehicle (a silverado 1500 with the trailering package) should be adequate for either. Gross Rating of 9600 and both of these shouldn't come to more than 8500 fully loaded and that's with alot of equipment - we travel somewhat light. never fill the tanks, live in the flat midwest and don't venture far. So I really don't think we will have an issue with either.....just not sure if one is really significantly better

Anyone pulling these and notice the Whitehawk trailer being much better or is that just a selling gimic, appearance thing.

Also in this class of trailer what kind of gas mileage are you getting? Is it still in the 8-10 range or more like 5-6
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:44 AM   #2
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If you have the truck to pull it, I would buy the Jay Flight. Though the White Hawk line is very nice, I believe that the light weight materials used to build them are not as sturdy as the material used on the Jay Flight line. IMO, I believe that long term, the Jay Flight will hold up better. Don't just look at the GVWR of the trailer, it is the tongue weight/Payload numbers that will get you in trouble with a 1/2 ton truck. Best of luck with your decision. I bet you will be happy either way!
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:34 AM   #3
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Both are very nice TT. Like ddrueckh I prefer the JayFlight over the Whitehawk, due to the more conventional construction materials and methods. However if you are absolutely set on fiberglass sidewalls, then I would take the Whitehawk. Unless Jayco has changed, and I haven't researched it since 2013, the JayFlight fiberglass option made available in MY 2014 is not the same vacuum bonded construction process that Whitehawk & Eagle that Jayco touts as superior to other processes. In my opinion if Jayco claims their vacuum bonded process to be superior, then what they are also saying is anything not using that process is inferior.

More importantly, before you buy anything make sure you really do the research to make sure your 1500 is up to the task. Both the BHBE and BHKS are getting very close the 1500/150 limits. Depending on your family size, the way you pack your truck bed, the trucks configuration, you may or may not have an adequate truck.

If I was you, the first thing to do is load you truck just like you were going camping. Full fuel, full passengers, all the contents you would have in the truck and truck bed then hit a scale to see how much payload capacity you have left for the TT tongue weight. TV payload is where most trucks fall short first.

Secondly, 100% disregard the published weights from Jayco (or any MFG). The tongue weight is grossly misrepresented and doesn't include full propane tanks or battery(ies). This can easily add 100 lbs to the tongue weight before adding any of your gear to the TT. To get actual weights, you best bet is to ask folks here with the same TT and look for the yellow ship weight stickers on the TT. Frequently the ship weight will be several hundred pounds higher than the published weight.

Best of luck in looking for you next TT.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:42 AM   #4
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Thanks - the ship weight on the yellow sticker does always tend to be a completely different animal than the brochure - although admittedly I didn't write down the tongue weight of the white hawk so as I'm sitting at home comparing I'm not really dealing with a full set of facts - that one had bigger propane tanks I thought - which would matter.

I'm really not overly concerned with the vehicle with this particular purchase - this is coming from someone who made the vehicle mistake once before. We aren't opposed to updating a TV if needed once the kids are bigger or if we decide to haul bikes in the truck bed, or we just don't like the way it pulls - I just want to make sure we made the right camper decision to start because I'm looking to replace that now and not again for at least 6 years realistically. I just need the vehicle to be adequate to get it home and take it out for a few trips and see if we like the setup...which I still think it is..and if it's not then we upgrade. My thought was that maybe that whitehawk trailer was just a better design to start with though....however....

This is actually interesting because I thought people would come down on the side of the whitehawk being the nicer model as it is the more expensive one but I'm getting the feeling there is a lot of love for the Jay Flight being a little sturdier and that trailer design may not be as big of a deal.
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Old 05-29-2015, 12:03 PM   #5
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We just bought our 28BHBE and we love it! We camped over the Memorial Day weekend and it was amazing. We upgraded from a 25ft and I love the room we have in the BHBE. We have 2 kids and 2 dogs, even on the rainy day we all had space inside the camper. We didn't look at the WhiteHawk so I can't help with that. I love the way the Jayco is built, very sturdy. Good luck with your decision!
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Old 05-29-2015, 12:05 PM   #6
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I think you will find that people have reasons to love both the White Hawk and the Jay Flight. You really can't go wrong with either one. The only negative I have read about the White Hawk is that the layered floor sometimes feels soft/bouncy. I do not think it is as sturdy as the Jay Flight plywood floor. I have not walked in a White Hawk and have not experience this...so take that with a grain of salt. Maybe go check yourself if you can. Buy the one that has the options and layout that you like the best and get camping!
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Old 05-29-2015, 12:25 PM   #7
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We got the 28BHBE after looking at both models. We went with the aluminum siding and got the elite with thermal package. We preferred the sturdier construction over the lighter weight even though we to are pushing to the upper level of our towing ability due to payload. I worried about the flooring material in the White Hawk and I after a lot of thought like how much easier and cheaper any kind of wall repair is with the aluminum siding over fiberglass. 3 trips in our Tundra tows well even through the Appalachians over Memorial Day. Our big trip 8 hours to DC is next week and I'm confident in our towing ability on our new camper. The space is very nice and I love the configuration. We have 3 kids and my mom comes with us regularly. This set up is perfect for our family.
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Old 05-29-2015, 12:29 PM   #8
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We have a Whitehawk 29SQB, and one of the reasons we bought it over a Jayflight was we wanted metal framing and fiberglass and not stick and tin like our previous TT.

The weight savings of the Whitehawk over the Jayflight is also a nice bonus.

Oddly the 33.5 foot Whitehawk tows easier and gets about the same (if not a little better) mpg than our old 16.5 foot Roadrunner TT.
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We also looked at both models and went w/ the Jay Flight. There was just something that I liked better about it. We'd been out in it twice so far and love it w/ my family of 4. We pull it w/ a 2012 suburban and it does ok. I'm still getting used to it, but from what I'm reading, the burb will do good for a while. We don't travel w/ much of anything other than snacks in the TV. EVerything else is in the trailer.
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Old 05-29-2015, 04:59 PM   #10
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If you are ever going to do a lot of forest road traveling I would go with the JayFlight. The frame is FAR stronger than the Norco NextGen frame on the WhiteHawk. Also the tank capacities are lower on the WhiteHawk, especially the water tanks. I think the sandwhich floor design is questionable; apparently Jayco did too cause the 2016 WhiteHawks now have 5/8" ply.
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