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Old 12-03-2014, 09:42 AM   #21
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The Max Tow package includes 3.73 gears. I believe you can get 3.73's in non Max Tow, but not the other way around. 3.55 gears are fine for most towing, but you lose out on the increased GVWR. Max Tow is available in 5.5 and 6.5 beds, and here in Canada with or without the tow mirrors. In the US Max Tow includes the big mirrors.

I also would highly recommend the bigger fuel tank. 136L is perfect when you're towing.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:20 AM   #22
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I disagree that the 3.73 rear end is really needed.
I have 3.55 rear end and 33" tires which reduces it to an effective 3.44.
With the payload maxed out with tongue weight and gear, I have spun the back tires merging into traffic from a gas station. This was on brand new asphalt.

I've towed my rig (8k+) over Bald Mountain pass in the Uinta Mountains. It's about a 7-8% grade, 55mph speed limit. The truck settled into 3rd @ 3300 rpm and maintained 55 with most of the throttle left. I pulled away from a fully loaded suburban that had no trailer!. All this was above 10,000 ft elevation.

I really think it's turbos that make a difference on the diesel trucks and not the fuel.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:45 AM   #23
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An amusing little comparison:

1994 (first year) 7.3l Powerstroke Diesel
210hp 425lb-ft

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Old 12-03-2014, 11:53 AM   #24
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I have a 5.0 and am not towing my current trailer with this truck. My Friend has the Ecoboost and towed my trailer to my camp site without any issues. He Tows his TT which has a very similar weight with his truck and has not reported any issue. He towed in from here (Regina) to Victoria and said it pulled well.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:38 PM   #25
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I have a 5.0 and am not towing my current trailer with this truck. My Friend has the Ecoboost and towed my trailer to my camp site without any issues. He Tows his TT which has a very similar weight with his truck and has not reported any issue. He towed in from here (Regina) to Victoria and said it pulled well.
It may be true that the EcoBoost makes more power and is better suited to heavy towing, but the weight restrictions of the tow vehicle must always be adhered to. The tow ratings, payload, hitch rating, GVWR, GCVWR and GAWR between the trucks won't differ much when comparing two similar trucks with different engines.

I would suspect that your friend's truck is overloaded, or close to it, unless he has the ideally packaged F150 (base model HD payload). Your trailer is Super Duty territory.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:48 PM   #26
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Brownie, The HD payload comes with LT tires, not P-rated. It should also have 7 lugs per wheel and not 6 like the standard F150s. If your truck doesn't have these, I'd double check the features.
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Old 12-03-2014, 01:08 PM   #27
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I think he has the Max Tow package, not the HD payload package. There seems to be some confusion with the packages.

There is the basic tow package, then there's the Max Tow package which gives you a few extras and does in fact increase your payload by a bit by pushing the GVWR up to 7650 or 7700 depending on wheelbase, and then there's the Heavy Duty Payload package which is the 7 lug wheels, extra rear leaf, and increases GVWR to 8200lbs. Most Max Tow trucks come with LT tires with the exception of the 20in wheels in which case the P rated Pirellis are standard. All HD payload package trucks are standard with LT tires.
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I think he has the Max Tow package, not the HD payload package. There seems to be some confusion with the packages.

There is the basic tow package, then there's the Max Tow package which gives you a few extras and does in fact increase your payload by a bit by pushing the GVWR up to 7650 or 7700 depending on wheelbase, and then there's the Heavy Duty Payload package which is the 7 lug wheels, extra rear leaf, and increases GVWR to 8200lbs. Most Max Tow trucks come with LT tires with the exception of the 20in wheels in which case the P rated Pirellis are standard. All HD payload package trucks are standard with LT tires.
That is my understanding as well. When I bought mine, I did a lot of research and several dealers tried to convince me that trucks with Max Tow were the same thing as the HD Payload but I knew it wasn't so. Ended up having to special order the truck because no one in the country had one on the lot. Waited two months for it but I was sure glad I persisted.
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:50 PM   #29
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I have had my Ecoboost F-150 since May 2013 and in the 65,000 miles I have put on it I have never averaged better than 17MPG. I routinly carry 1,000lbs of tools and spare parts in the bed under an ARE cap and usually travel 5 miles above the speed limit- I really envy those who claim MPG's in the 20's.
My regular TV is a V-10 Excursion but once did tow my 9300lb TT with my F-150 on a 25 mile trip.While I have the 3.73 gears and my set up should be capable of towing around 10,000lbs its not the towing that concerns me but the stopping that does. I did not like the way the TT pushed me and would be concerned, over the long run, about the wear on the suspension as well.
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Old 12-12-2014, 08:09 AM   #30
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If you're lugging around 10,000lbs then you should be in a 3/4 ton. The 150 would handle a load that heavy much better with LT tires, upgraded shocks, and air bags. Stopping shouldn't be a concern if your trailer brakes are set up properly.
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