Ford f-150

[dennis b]

Originally Posted by ecoboosteagle

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How is your tow experience with 20's?

[SkyBound]

The stock 20's that come on the F150 are wrapped in Pirelli Scorpion tires which are P rated, believe it or not. Ford uses this tire because it is the lightest 20in truck tire out there that still meets the loading requirements for published tow weights. That being said, they are not a good tow tire. Far too soft on the sidewalls and winter traction is terrible.

I put a set of LT Duratracs on my factory 20s and they have been fantastic. Most guys with Super Duties run these I find. The EcoBoost has more than enough power to swing big rubber on big metal and still tow heavy. I really like my 20s - all F150s that have them, Max Tow or not, get the higher rear axle rating of 4050lbs as well. They also look best on the crew cab 6.5ft bed configurations since it's such a big truck.

[dennis b]

Originally Posted by SkyBound

The stock 20's that come on the F150 are wrapped in Pirelli Scorpion tires which are P rated, believe it or not. Ford uses this tire because it is the lightest 20in truck tire out there that still meets the loading requirements for published tow weights. That being said, they are not a good tow tire. Far too soft on the sidewalls and winter traction is terrible.

I put a set of LT Duratracs on my factory 20s and they have been fantastic. Most guys with Super Duties run these I find. The EcoBoost has more than enough power to swing big rubber on big metal and still tow heavy. I really like my 20s - all F150s that have them, Max Tow or not, get the higher rear axle rating of 4050lbs as well. They also look best on the crew cab 6.5ft bed configurations since it's such a big truck.

Just wondering, as I recently replaced my 1999 Expedition.
I bought a 2005 F150 platinum & Rouch wheel package ,super clean 1 owner crewcab 5.5' box. It has the 20' Rouch wheels with P rated Cooper tires. Some people I have talked with said 20's are no good for towing.
As I haven't towed yet,I was just checking actual experience.
I currently have the second set of tires which are on 2006 factory chrome wheels on. Previous owner did not want the 20's affected by winter salt.
I much prefer the look of the 20's!

[Upuaut]

I tow my 22FB with my 2013 F150 SuperCab Ecoboost. It pulls it like a dream with lots of power to spare. I love it.

[Ottawasteve]

If you are towing heavy, get the HD Payload plus the Tow Package. I have a 2010 5.4 with Max Tow and wished I would have gotten the HD Payload Package as well. We got our Eagle 28 BHBE after the truck. It pulls better than expected and is able to maintain the speedlimit through the mountains in VT and NY but the engine has to work to do it and stability and braking our excellent. We are closer on payload than I would like and we are looking at the 2015's for increased Payload.

[SkyBound]

I like the Max Tow package for various reasons and of course I didn't even consider another truck without it. That being said, if I really NEEDED the heavy duty payload package due to a big, heavy trailer and/or gear, I would have put myself into a Super Duty, no question. These half tons will handle a lot, but they are limited. If that extra meant the difference between needing the heavy duty payload package over the max tow package then I would be stepping it up. That is my personal opinion on the matter, no disrespect to my 7-lug bretheren!

[blderman]

2014 F150 SCREW LB Ecoboost Max Tow here. Pulls my 6,000lb Terry Taurus with ease. In fact I bought this truck to replace my 02 F350 7.3 Diesel with quite a few power mods and my Ecoboost will out tow the 7.3 in both power and stability. I am very impressed with the F150 but the stock tires are garbage. I had to put on E rated tires to be comfortable.

[WildlifeTag]

2013 F150 V6 Ecoboost. Towed today for the first time and it was perfect!

[Brett K]

I have a 2013 super crew with the ecoboost and max trailer/max tow packages. Cargo capacity is 1823 without the max payload package. It tows our 2014 Jayflight 267 bus very well but I'm about maxed out and wouldn't feel comfortable going bigger without upgrading to an F250.

[Rockford James]

These are great comments. Thanks to all who posted. I just purchased a 2015 F150 4 x 4 Super Crew, 3.5 Eco (365hp & 420lbs torque) and 3.55 gear with max tow (11,500lbs on this configuration) with 7000 GVWR option and 16,900 lbs CGWR, and with payload of 2,170 lbs. I pick up our new 29BHDS and have been feeling apprehensive about the TV choice but feeling better now. I'll re-post what I experience in a couple weeks.

[SkyBound]

Congrats on the new truck! You're sure your GVWR is only 7000lb? With a payload of 2170 that means your truck is well under 5000lb empty... Maybe the new aluminum saves that much weight? That's over 1000lb lighter than my tow beast.

[Mustang65]

Here is FORD's 2015 official towing capacities and engine specifications:

Scroll down until you find your truck

- Regular cab
- Super Cab
- Super Crew

Don
Towing capacity:
2015 Ford F-150 | View Towing Specifications | Ford.com

F150 Engine Specifications (there are 2 EcoBoost engines listed)
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/engine/

[blderman]

Originally Posted by SkyBound

Congrats on the new truck! You're sure your GVWR is only 7000lb? With a payload of 2170 that means your truck is well under 5000lb empty... Maybe the new aluminum saves that much weight? That's over 1000lb lighter than my tow beast.

I was thinking the same thing. My '14 weighs 6000, with a payload of 1700 and GCWR of 7700. I thought the aluminum only lost 300lbs on the Super Crews.

[Rockford James]

Thanks Don,

This is where I got my data.

Jim

[blderman]

Originally Posted by Rockford James

Thanks Don,

This is where I got my data.

Jim

Jim,

I would encourage you to look at the actual sticker on the truck. Ford's website regarding payload and towing is really misleading.


Jason

[Rockford James]

Jason,

Trust me... these are the numbers. (I'm an engineer and am pretty anal about this stuff. That's why I'm getting it weighed). The 7000# GVWR is from the sticker on the truck and it's listed as an option on the window sticker. (Pretty sure it comes when you get the "max-tow package".) The curb weight (not listed on sticker) is from the Ford site and the registration. When you crunch the numbers, 7000# less 2170 payload, it comes out to 4,830. Not sure what the 95# discrepancy is unless it's rounding results from the Ford engineers. At any rate, it's very light due to the aluminum sheet metal and that's why it capacities have gone up. ie, payload, towing.

I will say this truck is amazing. Blows away anything I have had or driven in its class.

Jim

[blderman]

Originally Posted by Rockford James

Jason,

Trust me... these are the numbers. (I'm an engineer and am pretty anal about this stuff. That's why I'm getting it weighed). The 7000# GVWR is from the sticker on the truck and it's listed as an option on the window sticker. (Pretty sure it comes when you get the "max-tow package".) The curb weight (not listed on sticker) is from the Ford site and the registration. When you crunch the numbers, 7000# less 2170 payload, it comes out to 4,830. Not sure what the 95# discrepancy is unless it's rounding results from the Ford engineers. At any rate, it's very light due to the aluminum sheet metal and that's why it capacities have gone up. ie, payload, towing.

I will say this truck is amazing. Blows away anything I have had or driven in its class.

Jim

Just trying to help. I love my '14 F150 but I am not afraid to say that Ford is very devious with their marketing about towing and payload.

[Rockford James]

Hey don't get me wrong Jason. I appreciate the feedback. That's why I posted. Being as new and groundbreaking as the 2015 is, I am anxious to see if it lives up to it's specs. I think all manufacturers of any product need to be scrutinized and one should always leave plenty of margin when it comes to safety. Bottom line is I believe I made the correct choice for my TV. Looks like it can handle about any of the trailers I'm looking at from Jayco. (I'm reconsidering getting the Jay Flight 29BHDS and am instead thinking the Jay Flight 32 BHDS.)

Thanks again!

[Mustang65]

The company posted truck numbers are submitted to the government agency for approval and for publication. A few years back one of the companies (do not remember which one it was GM, Ford, Dodge or Toyota) was forced to redo the numbers as they were not correct.

Not sure if that is still the procedure.

Don

[Rockford James]

I like that the manufacturers are finally adopting the SAE standard J2807. This at least makes it possible to compare one truck to another. As I understand it, Toyota was the first to adopt in 2011, Ford, GM and Chrysler are adopting in 2015.