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Old 11-08-2015, 06:20 PM   #1
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Question Glacier package- what temps?

A salesman told me that the glacier package insulation makes the outside under belly good down to 0*. He said its on the Jayco web site. I can't find it. We were in our Jay flight in Arizona this past week and the temps were down to the teens. I figured when I buy another trailer that I would get tank heaters.
The sales guy said I did not need it. Mmmm? I put anti freeze in the tanks after emptying them and did not use the black tank or run water until it warmed up. This made it a pain in the butt. Did not want my valves to freeze. Where does it say what temps the glacier package is good for on the White Hawks?
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:47 AM   #2
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I asked our salesman about the glacier packs and he said the underbelly was heated and better insulated
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Old 11-09-2015, 04:53 PM   #3
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I don't have a White Hawk but I think it not likely for Jayco to print about how low the temps can get without the pipes freezing. Reason being, it depends on the person using the camper. The furnace must be run in order for the "basement" area to stay warm and some people use electric heaters so that does nothing to warm the pipes underneath. Wind also can affect how cold it becomes in the underbelly. I've camped in temps down into the low 20s and done nothing other than unhook the outside water line and everything was fine. I would probably do what you did if I ever camped when temps get down to 0...but then again, I probably would not go camping when it's that cold .
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:57 PM   #4
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On my White Hawk the glacier package consists of a furnace duct to the underbelly and a can of spray foam surrounding the hole the tank drains come through. The plastic underbelly doesn't have any insulation on it. The fresh, black, and gray tanks are all in a "heated" space technically. I've had mine out down to 20 at night but I think zero would be too cold.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:53 PM   #5
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How can you tell when a salesman is lying?

His lips are moving.

All seriousness aside, my experience with sales people have been either they are lying or they simply don't know their product.
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Old 11-29-2016, 06:43 PM   #6
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How can you tell when a salesman is lying?

His lips are moving.

All seriousness aside, my experience with sales people have been either they are lying or they simply don't know their product.
I've had a long career in sales. There is an old adage the goes "buyers are liars". Just sayin'. I can't tell you how many times I've met all the customers criteria whether it be monthly payment or condition of a trade in. Excellent and Pristine are usually at best in "fair to middlin" condition. And then there is the old "if you can get my payment to 235.00 per month with zero cash out of pocket, I will shake your hand". You get that payment to fit their budget exactly and all of a sudden they have a "roast in the oven". Or there is the old "We have ice cream in the trunk and we don't want it to melt". I keep a spoon handy just for that one and they never accept my offer to use it. Now mind you, not all customers are that way just like all sales consultants aren't that way. So how do I know when a customer is lying? Simple. They are vegetarians who cook roast, refuse my spoon and want something for nothing.
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:37 AM   #7
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If you don't have dual pane windows and an insulated slide out floor then all the other insulation won't matter. It's like having the front door open in your house.
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