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Old 10-18-2012, 07:16 AM   #11
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I don't know if this will help you but it did for me after I struggled with all the same questions on weights. I stumbled upon this after I got great information from Bob (Rustic Eagle) and others on this forum when I initially asked questions about Weights, Weight Distribution, and TV (I just could not calculate it myself). Follow these links plug in your numbers and it will really give you a starting point.

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-tow-vehicle-sizing.shtml

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-...eight-tt.shtml

IMHO I think the trailer is too much for an F150, I struggled with since I have a 2011 F150 max tow package, etc. about the same setup. We initially wanted a Jay Flight 29RLDS then a Jay Flight 26RLS and realized that even with safety margins, a loaded TT and TV I would be substantially over weight (Validated with this at the CAT Scales). Since I am not willing to get a new TV I fit the TT to my vehicle so we are going to be getting a White Hawk 30DSRE with a ProPride Hitch. I just could not risk putting my family in danger....I have a member of my family that had a slightly overloaded setup and they flip the whole thing, TV and TT, on Interstate 77 in Virginia. They were lucky and came out with just some cuts and bruises, the TT and TV were a total loss.

Note this is only my personal opinion.

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Old 10-18-2012, 10:50 AM   #12
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I would agree with Gary's (glcamp) conclusion: the trailer is too much for a F150. Using a F150 is putting the F150 at risk, the occupants therein, and those of us who travel on the roadways. Bottom-line: either get a different trailer (eg, pop-up) or a different TV.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:16 AM   #13
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Rustic Eagle, the 2,200 pounds you reference is with the Heavy Duty Payload Package....snip
Thanks for the clarification...., I knew that there was a F-150 Ecoboost "package" that put the payload capacity over 2,000lbs.

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Old 10-18-2012, 12:35 PM   #14
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Pop-up, are you kidding me I guess you are one of those speople if you don't have a one ton dually you can tow anything. I currently town a 34ft keystone passport 300bh at around 6400lbs with not a problem. This truck tows way better than my 08 Chevy 2500hd with the 6 liter but maybe not as good as my 06 duramax. You guys should check the YouTube video off the ecoboost towing two race cars at a total of 11300lbs around a race track at an average speed of 85mph for 24hrs straight.
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It's not helpful to the OP to discuss max loads, race tracks and running 20 mph over an ST tires rated speed.
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When you guys use the word transfer of weight then to me that means that weight is being moved off the tongue and distributed to front of TV and axles of TT, so how is it not reduced. We do not load very heavy, short trip (2-4) days we pack the food and coolers and longer trips we wait and buy food and drinks when we get there. 99% of the time we camp is with full hook up so we never fill the fresh water tank. I have call dealers service people and sales and half will tell me I am fine where as the half say it maybe to heavy as same goes for all the forums. I just want to get the closest TT to what we want and not get a new TV, of not I will keep what I have and wait till I can get a diesel.
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It is leverage. The weight of the tongue does not change. It is not easily explained. Weight is transferred from the rear axle to the front axle of the TV and to the trailer axle. If you could measure what the leverage is doing at the ball you would find that the force on the ball itself actually increases. As I said, it is not easily explained. But it is all leverage.
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When you guys use the word transfer of weight then to me that means that weight is being moved off the tongue and distributed to front of TV and axles of TT, so how is it not reduced.....snip
EricRom,

Another way to look at it is that once the weight of the TT tongue has been place on the TV's hitch ball it has an immediate effect to the TV's front and rear axle loads (weight)...., the TV's front axle has weight removed (front of TV rises) and the TV's rear axle gains weight (rear of TV squats). As the WDH is engaged the force generated by this leveraging action is transferred through the WDH ball mount, the TV receiver, TV frame, TT frame.., all resulting in weight changes over the TV/TT axles. Do to the dynamics taking place at the ball mount, there is very little (if any) weight actually "removed" off the hitch ball.

Some folks may compare the weights being distributed to their loaded TT tongue weight value, but the major source of the weight being distributed is coming from the weight placed over the TV's rear axle.

For a detailed/technical overview of how a WDH works, the following link may be an interesting read: http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fu...d/14265335.cfm

It should be noted that since some weight is distributed to the TT's axles, thus reducing some of the weight being carried by the TV. This WDH process is best appreciated when one takes their TV/TT combination to a CAT scale, eliminating all the guess work.

Hope this helps.

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