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06-19-2016, 04:52 PM
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How tight is too tight?
For those of you with experience using the BAL X-CHOCKS, how tight is too tight? I have been using the X-chocks, but wondering if I am putting to much stress on the tires. THANKS FOR ANY INPUT.
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06-19-2016, 04:55 PM
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There's no such thing as too tight! (Sorry couldn't resist
But in reference to the X-chocks, I just snug them up so there's no wiggle.
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06-19-2016, 09:09 PM
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X2 on what he said.
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06-20-2016, 04:47 AM
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I use a 12V electric ratchet to expand mine. After the pads contact the tires well I give the ratchet wrench about 4 more pulls. I make them pretty tight, in the past I would check them a few hours after setting up and they would be loose! Finally figured out that the tires cooled down and shrunk a bit. I think it would be pretty hard to tighten them too tight. When I tighten them I can see the pad push into the tire a bit.
Here is the wrench I use, makes it much easier than the manual ratchet that comes with them. Works good for the stabilizing jacks too!
Milwaukee M12 12-Volt Lithium-Ion 3/8 in. Cordless Ratchet Kit-2457-21 - The Home Depot
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06-20-2016, 06:23 AM
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Nice ratchet, but 150.00? Is there an attachment for a regular drill to make that 90 degree turn?
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06-20-2016, 06:47 AM
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I install the chocks with the adjusting screw facing the ground. It gives me allot more room to access the adjusting screw. You might be able to fit a regular drill with socket attachment with the chocks in that position
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06-20-2016, 07:03 AM
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I snug them up nice and tight, because, as mentioned above, the tires will reduce in size once they cool down.
On a side note, do any of you guys use the x-chocks without regular tire chocks? I personally do, and have never had an x-chock slip. But I appear to be in the minority on the "large" RV forum.
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06-20-2016, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasoncw
I snug them up nice and tight, because, as mentioned above, the tires will reduce in size once they cool down.
On a side note, do any of you guys use the x-chocks without regular tire chocks? I personally do, and have never had an x-chock slip. But I appear to be in the minority on the "large" RV forum.
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Count me in the minority. I only use the x-chock just make sure they are tight.
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06-20-2016, 08:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasoncw
I snug them up nice and tight, because, as mentioned above, the tires will reduce in size once they cool down.
On a side note, do any of you guys use the x-chocks without regular tire chocks? I personally do, and have never had an x-chock slip. But I appear to be in the minority on the "large" RV forum.
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Use both. The regular tire chocks are in place before the TT comes off the hitch and remain there for the rest of the stay.
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06-20-2016, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasoncw
I snug them up nice and tight, because, as mentioned above, the tires will reduce in size once they cool down.
On a side note, do any of you guys use the x-chocks without regular tire chocks? I personally do, and have never had an x-chock slip. But I appear to be in the minority on the "large" RV forum.
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To the OP: I get mine snug and add probably one turn. I try to get them pretty tight because I would have to climb under my slide to snug up the street-side.
I use both types of chocks as well.
I've never had my trailer move after setup "in the wild". Most of my sites have been very level, so not a lot of worry about the trailer moving, but I still use the chocks. It really only takes a second to deploy them, so why not? And the instructions on the X-Chocks say to use standard wheel chocks in addition.
Last time we were home, I forgot to put down my wedge chocks. My driveway has a little slant to it, nothing crazy, but definitely a grade. Noticed my trailer rocking on the tongue jack quite a bit after unhooking while DW was working in the trailer. After my initial facepalm, I went and put down the chocks. Probably would give DW a full on coronary if that thing fell off the jack! And I would never hear the end of it!
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06-20-2016, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camper_bob
Last time we were home, I forgot to put down my wedge chocks. My driveway has a little slant to it, nothing crazy, but definitely a grade. Noticed my trailer rocking on the tongue jack quite a bit after unhooking while DW was working in the trailer. After my initial facepalm, I went and put down the chocks. Probably would give DW a full on coronary if that thing fell off the jack! And I would never hear the end of it!
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Was that with the x-chocks deployed? Admittedly I typically am on a relatively level site, and I would likely use both if the slope was a little steep.
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06-20-2016, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jasoncw
Was that with the x-chocks deployed? Admittedly I typically am on a relatively level site, and I would likely use both if the slope was a little steep.
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No, I don't deploy the X-chocks at home, just the wedge chocks. Though with the gentle slope of my driveway, the X-chocks would probably work.
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06-20-2016, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camper_bob
Last time we were home, I forgot to put down my wedge chocks.
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I did the same thing unhooking yesterday. When the trailer came off the hitch it suddenly moved backwards about 3 inches and caused a bit of a heart rate increase... I immediately put down the wedge chocks, moved the TV back, and set the TT back on hitch just enough to straighten out the jack.
When setting up camp, I also use the wedge chocks in addition to the X-chocks. If I had a smaller trailer, I might only use the X-chock, but I'm the cautious type.
They're great at stopping the forward backward motions. TT feels much better with them on. I'd still like to figure out how to get a bit more stable on the side-to-side motions. Preferably without adding more steps to setting up camp...
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06-20-2016, 10:32 AM
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When I picked up my trailer last week the dealer said not to make them too tight or they will damage the trailer. Yet I don't see any warnings like that here nor any reported incident of this happening. Any truth to "too tight can hurt the trailer"?
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06-20-2016, 10:44 AM
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I use one x-chock and use the traditional chocks on the opposite side
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06-20-2016, 03:37 PM
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Thanks for all the input. Because of the height of my trailer, I have started using both the conventional chocks and the x-chocks. I had an incident where the trailer started to roll backwards while attempting get it high enough to hitch up. DW didn't notice as I just (spoke loudly) to let it back down and trying to hold onto the trailer at the same time. Chocks have been put to full use each time since. X-chocks are now installed after unhooking and not released until veh is reattached. THANKS AGAIN
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06-20-2016, 06:24 PM
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I don't think it's possible to tighten the X-chocks too tight. When you consider the forces that the trailer's tires, wheels and the rest of the running gear is under while being towed at 60 mph, the forces put on the same components by a chocking device are nothing in comparison, IMHO.
We use home-made X-chocks: two pieces of 4x4 fence post cut at angles, joined together with some threaded rod. They're one of the first things I put in place when unhitching, and once we're done setting up, I check the tightness after the tires have cooled. They always need a little more tightening.
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06-20-2016, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camper_bob
snip.....but I still use the chocks. It really only takes a second to deploy them, so why not? And the instructions on the X-Chocks say to use standard wheel chocks in addition......snip
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X2
X-Chocks aren't designed to keep a TT from rolling.
There have been reports that under rotational stress (TT rolling, etc.) the X-chocks can dislodge and "snap-outward" from between the tires.
Bob
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06-20-2016, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle
X2
X-Chocks aren't designed to keep a TT from rolling.
There have been reports that under rotational stress (TT rolling, etc.) the X-chocks can dislodge and "snap-outward" from between the tires.
Bob
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Yup, take it from my experience, if you try and move the trailer with the x-chocks still installed, they just spit out the side! One of those DUH moments.
I block the wheels (usually just one side of the trailer only, unless on a steep grade), unhook the trailer and then install the x-chocks.
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06-20-2016, 08:38 PM
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Yep, don't think you can't pull a set completely out with a truck. I've almost done it and my brother in law has. They kind of stabilize, but will come out. Can't beat old school. We use a combination depending on sites and slope.
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