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03-04-2015, 01:41 PM
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Jacking Up my Trailer, Part 2
I am going to jack my trailer to get the tires off of the ground. The manual clearly states to jack up by the frame and not the axle. It makes sense to me they would say this to prevent someone from putting the total load supported by both axles onto only one axle if they were jacking up by only one axle.... to to change a tire for instance.
However, I am thinking about spanning both axles with a short 4x4, and then jacking them both up at the same time.
Anyone know whether this would be OK or not?
Thanks much.
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03-04-2015, 01:47 PM
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Why not just go to the frame as recommended?
Your idea seems like it might be a little unstable...
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03-04-2015, 01:59 PM
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Here is why. To jack by the frame, I have to jack it up a long ways because of the suspension to get the tires off the ground. I COULD jack it up by the frame for a short distance, say 4 or 5 inches, and then jack by the axles just enough to raise the tire, and then leave all 4 jacks in place. It's just that this is a lot of jacking and shimming etc.
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03-04-2015, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tperk100
Here is why. To jack by the frame, I have to jack it up a long ways because of the suspension to get the tires off the ground. I COULD jack it up by the frame for a short distance, say 4 or 5 inches, and then jack by the axles just enough to raise the tire, and then leave all 4 jacks in place. It's just that this is a lot of jacking and shimming etc.
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True, and good point. Could you put your jack up on blocks? I'm not sure I would put blocks between the jack head and the frame...
If you jack it up like you were saying, by the frame a few inches, then place jack stands under, then you could jack up the axles and you would just be taking the droop out of the suspension instead of jacking the entire weight of the TT up on the axle tubes.
An alternative would be to use leveling blocks. Drive one wheel up on the leveling blocks stacked high. If you're lucky, you can get the other wheel off the ground. If not, you could use the same concept mentioned above to take the suspension droop out to get the tire off the ground enough to accomplish what you're trying to do?
Just a thought. I would be terrified of bending my axle or putting a dent in the axle tube.
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03-04-2015, 02:23 PM
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The way I did it with our old hybrid was to lower the tongue jack all the way to the ground so the rear of the trailer was higher than the nose. Put an axle stand under the frame behind the rear axle as close as I could get it. Then raise the tongue jack, and put another stand in front of the wheels. By doing so, the wheels on that side of the trailer were lifted a few inches off the ground.
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03-08-2015, 09:03 AM
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What is the reason you want to get the tires off the ground, unless it is going to sit for a long time I would not be too concerned.
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03-08-2015, 09:15 AM
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It's going to sit permanently. unless I have to move it for repairs.
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03-08-2015, 09:22 AM
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is it torsion or leaf spring suspension ... I would think on leaf spring you could jack it right under where the leaf spring is mounted to axle
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03-08-2015, 10:05 AM
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I don't know which it is, but I am thinking the same thing you are about jacking it up.
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03-08-2015, 10:13 AM
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well for me jacking it up by the frame means you have to be way up there and like someone said also overcome the suspension drop ... sounds hazardous to me I would rather be down low right where the leafs attach and get it off the ground with very little jacking
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03-08-2015, 11:33 AM
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Can you jack it up, remove tires and lower it a bit?
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03-08-2015, 11:53 AM
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"well for me jacking it up by the frame means you have to be way up there and like someone said also overcome the suspension drop ... sounds hazardous to me I would rather be down low right where the leafs attach and get it off the ground with very little jacking."
Ditto on that.
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03-08-2015, 12:33 PM
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I'd go with wheels off the trailer too.
You might try and get the frame supported with leveled width-wise spans.
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03-08-2015, 12:34 PM
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Club Rules....cannot remove wheels.
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03-08-2015, 01:51 PM
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OK, was just wondering.
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03-08-2015, 02:13 PM
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Buy some really tiny wheels!!
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03-08-2015, 02:15 PM
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LOL!
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03-08-2015, 02:18 PM
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I would level your trailer, put some concrete blocks or wood blocks under the frame and just let the air out of the tires. Tires are still on, trailer isn't any higher or balanced precariously and you don't have the wiggle from the suspension or tires when you walk.
No need to jack it up and balance it in the air that way...
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03-08-2015, 03:11 PM
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If you are keeping it there, almost permanently, it makes no sense to lift it using the axles, most everyone complains about trailer bouncing, and this has a lot to do with the trailer sitting on springs or torsion axles.
Your best bet would be to buy 8 jack stands placing one on each corner and then one in front of and behind each axle to give you the greatest support.
I found these at Northern Tool for $22/pair, this would provide the support needed.
Torin Double-Locking Ratchet Action Jack Stands — 2-Ton Capacity, Model# T42002A | Jack Stands| Northern Tool + Equipment
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03-08-2015, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon059
I would level your trailer, put some concrete blocks or wood blocks under the frame and just let the air out of the tires. Tires are still on, trailer isn't any higher or balanced precariously and you don't have the wiggle from the suspension or tires when you walk.
No need to jack it up and balance it in the air that way...
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Trail tire manufacturers say to inflate the tires to a little over max capacity for long term non usage.
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