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Old 12-09-2015, 01:58 PM   #1
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Jay feather 23rlsw

I'm a new member and this is my 1st post. The wife & I have settled on buying a Jay Feather 23RLSW in the next few months. The reasons are; floor plan, just the 2 of us, want the dry weight around 4700 lbs., it will fit our needs even though there is a lack of closet space.

Hard to find everything we want in a shorter TT. I bought a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4X4 with the 3.0 liter V6 diesel to tow with. 240 HP, 420 lb/ft of torque. Runs well with plenty of grunt to pull with. 28MPG HWY.

Rated to tow up to #7200. I plan on keeping my loaded weight at no more than 5600 lbs. if possible which is about 80% of the max. towing capacity. Will travel with minimal water and downsize on what we use to haul in our previous class A. We don't dry camp.
It's going to be a challenge but we will make it work.

I'm not new to towing but it's been awhile.

Anybody out there who is towing with this combo or something similar. I'm looking forward to your replies and watching this forum. Wireman
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Old 12-09-2015, 02:08 PM   #2
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We just bought a 23RLSW last month for just the two of us. We used the space under the bed for clothes as there is not much room for that I agree.

We really liked the floor plan and the weight.

Can't help on the towing we have a 2014 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi.

Hope you enjoy your new purchase.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:35 PM   #3
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I'm a new member and this is my 1st post. The wife & I have settled on buying a Jay Feather 23RLSW in the next few months. The reasons are; floor plan, just the 2 of us, want the dry weight around 4700 lbs., it will fit our needs even though there is a lack of closet space.

Hard to find everything we want in a shorter TT. I bought a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4X4 with the 3.0 liter V6 diesel to tow with. 240 HP, 420 lb/ft of torque. Runs well with plenty of grunt to pull with. 28MPG HWY.

Rated to tow up to #7200. I plan on keeping my loaded weight at no more than 5600 lbs. if possible which is about 80% of the max. towing capacity. Will travel with minimal water and downsize on what we use to haul in our previous class A. We don't dry camp.
It's going to be a challenge but we will make it work.

I'm not new to towing but it's been awhile.

Anybody out there who is towing with this combo or something similar. I'm looking forward to your replies and watching this forum. Wireman
Wife and I have just bought one of these. It's got tons of space compared with our one-year-old SLX 165RB that we're giving up, but I agree about the storage - clothing is likely to wind up in the under-bed storage, same as TxTwoSome described. Otherwise it's about ideal for us. We'll be towing ours with a 2010 F150, towing capacity is 8750, so we should have plenty of overhead available. Looking forward to picking it up in April or so.

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Thanks for the replies so far. Has anyone weighted there 23rlsw camper ready for the road? Wireman
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:46 PM   #5
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At 5600# I'd expect a tongue weight of 840#. Another 80# of hitch and you have 920# on the rear. I suggest a visit to the scales to get your TV's weights. You may find that even tho you are well under the max tow weight you may exceed the Rear GAWR. We towed our first TT with a Ford Expedition that had a max tow of almost 9k# and the TT of 4400# with about 600# on the tongue. My surprise was we were 200# shy of my rear axle max. With another couple in the back seat I figure we were over on the rear axle. We did that a few times and I didn't stress over it but being over on every trip I would. Don't let the sales person convince you that all is well, he/she will probably tell you your '63 VW beetle can tow it with no sweat if it means a sale. The sticker on the driver's door jamb will have the weight limits for each axle and the scale will let you know the current axle weights.
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Redhorse1, thanks for your input. I understand overloading the rear axle. Based on Jayco specs the unloaded tongue weight is #490. I see your #840 tongue weight is at the 15% max. allowed. Hopefully with careful cargo placement I can be in the 12% range which is about #750 with the hitch and it will tow without issues.


As I stated it's just the wife and I and we will have very little cargo in the JGC. The rear axle rating is #3700. I haven't had a chance to weigh each axle yet. The Jeep has the factory tow package with a class IV hitch. Still trying to find out what the max. tongue weight allowed is. I can't see it on the hitch anywhere. I'm not a physics major but won't some of the tongue weight be moved to the front axle of the tow vehicle and to the axles of the trailer with the WDH. I understand the 10-15% rule applies.


There's still a lot of research to do B4 we pull the trigger. Hopefully this forum can answer most of my questions. Wireman
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Our WDH unloaded the rear axle about 200#. And yes I used 15% in the calc, I usually use "worst case" numbers when planning something like this.

U-Haul says this about class IV:
Class 4 (Class IV) trailer hitch. Trailer hitch with weight carrying rating of up to 10,000 lbs gross trailer weight and 1,000 - 1,200 lbs tongue weight. Although many times any hitch with a capacity greater than 5,000 lbs gross weight is referred to as a Class 4.

I'm a huge fan of the CAT Scale. I felt a bit lost on my first visit but I'd read the "how-to" sticky on the JOF and figured I could get it done. A single pass will run around $10 and I think additional passes are around $3 if done in the same visit. Before we bought the first TT I worked the #'s as best I could and it towed well. I figured I was OK on the weights but didn't really know until I'd hit the scales.
Hopefully someone will post their weights for you. Good luck and smooth roads!
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I found out the max tongue weight is #720. 10% of max towing capacity. So 13% tongue weight (#750) minus unloaded weight created by the WDH I think I'll be all good using my previous figures. Will definitely weigh both axles unloaded to get a baseline. Wireman
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I have a couple of other questions. First, for those of you who have the enclosed underbelly, do you feel that it's worthwhile to include it as a option when I order my TT? Is the material a heavy fabric or is it the coroplast material that looks like plastic cardboard? I believe it costs about $350 and I'm leaning toward adding it on.


Second, This is a specific question for those with the 23RLSW floor plan. On the few units I have looked at, RV show and a dealer, there is no co-ax jack or a 110 volt outlet for a bedroom tv. Is it possible to have Jayco install these on the short wall between the sliding curtain and the bathroom door? I realize that it would fit only a small tv (19") or so, but it's something we would have to have.


I would also need a backer board to mount a 2 piece removable wall mounted tv stand. I would remove the tv from the wall during travel and keep it on the bed.


Looking forward to your input. Wireman
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Welcome aboard Wireman, sorry I can't help on your questions....
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