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Old 10-11-2015, 10:07 PM   #11
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After posting this thread I did some more research (I know… should have done it first) and found many other threads on my question so have some decisions to make if I go with the Jay Flight. After spending the last 3 years (I know not as many as some) camping in our JayFeather and researching and looking at many trailers I plan to go with another Jayco, the decision is only which one. If I could I would like to look at a Northwood Mfg product but being on the East Coast that is not an option.

Thank You all for your input including those of you who have a 28BHBE. I know it is a big trailer, which is not something I really wanted, but to get that layout you have no option no matter what brand you go with. We had looked at and have been in a 28BHBE before but could not go that big at the time as our Expedition EL could not tow it (on paper it "could" but I would not have done it), now that I have my F250 it is an option.

We were lucky with our JayFeather and did not have any serious issues that were related to Jayco but with all trailers it was thrown together and you could tell in some areas. I went all through it including the underbelly checking all connections and having to repair some and tie up all the low hanging wires underneath. I tore out all the wood panels in the cabinets that covered all the hidden areas so I could inspect them, finding some issues I fixed myself. They are not like automobiles where you can safely assume everything is fairly correct, the QC is much different.

One major thing I looked at the last time I looked at the Jay Flights and Whitehawk was how the spring perches were mounted to the frame, I was not impressed and thought no way would I want one, hopefully they have beefed it up. This is why I really preferred the torsion axles bolted through the frame of our JayFeather. The salespeople think I am crazy because the first place I look is under the trailer but that is the most important because if you can't safely get where you are going it does not matter what the inside looks like.

tommarum… I do appreciate your input and honesty and noticed the same issue with the bed bases on a 26BHSW we looked at, as an example the little piece of wood that held the bed ram end was broken, my wife made comment that we should not get that particular trailer because it was broke (there were 2 identical ones we could choose from) but I already knew no matter if we got that one or one that the piece was not broken on I was going to have to beef that up no matter what along with many other items.

That all being said as much as we pay for these RV's these situations should not happen and the pennies they "save" do not make for happy customers sometimes.

BigJohnD… I appreciate all your input, I am with you on no matter what sometimes we have to fix their issues ourselves and will always do a better job then the factory or the dealer will do. I was watching an Extreme RV show and they were at Forks RV building a custom Continental Coach 5th wheel (so big they are towed by Big Rigs) and noticed they were building it with all wood framing and I thought to myself, wouldn't Aluminum be better, they are also Fiberglass sided. Maybe not… as you said it's all about maintenance and taking care of it to try to prevent leaks when possible.

This same situations goes with many items we purchase… I am going through an issue with a brand new ARE Truck Cap I just spent 3 G's on and now after the dealer was having issues mounting it, like the cap itself is tweaked, 2 poor fitting leaking windows, the back glass door that does not latch correctly and shifts sideways when closing (because I believe the cap itself is not correct), the Cap has already been sent all the way back to ARE in Ohio once with the dealer telling them there is something wrong with the cap itself and ARE only replaces one window and sends it back and does nothing for the other issues. So we remount it this past Friday, other windows leaks terribly, back hatch will still not close correctly and the corner that is bad on the cap leaks under the cap and the door does not seal. I have been patient through this whole 3 month process but it has run out.

Now I will be going back to the dealer and will be requesting it be returned to ARE and either provide me a refund or build me a new Cap. Not sure how well it is going to go as they are built to order, but not my fault it is not working. In this case I cant fix it myself which is frustrating. Moral of the story is sometimes no matter how much research you do and chose a company to spend your hard earned money with based on a Quality reputation sometimes it just does not work out.

No matter what RV you go with or what options you chose things can happen but taking in all the information you can to help make the right decision for each of ours situation is beneficial in many ways.

Keep the info coming...
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Good luck with your trailer, and have some fun.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:34 PM   #13
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I have owned only one travel trailer. I bought online direct from Middlebury Indianna. Like you Big John, I have learned that fixing the things that go wrong are much less stressful than trying to get a dealer to do it. At least when I fix it, I do care if its done right. When you only pay 18000 for a house on wheels, you get what you pay for. All travel trailers are made on an assembly line and you just can't expect perfection. I certainly would not take a loss to get rid of a Jayco for another brand trailer. Jayco has a good reputation, and I'm very proud of mine. I did buy the metal sides and I'm very glad I did. I have seen too many faded delaminated fiberglass side panels to make me feel different. I keep my trailer stored in a 24x30' enclosed steel building so it never sees the weather except when I'm using it
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:55 PM   #14
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... I keep my trailer stored in a 24x30' enclosed steel building so it never sees the weather except when I'm using it
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Old 10-19-2015, 01:23 AM   #15
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We hit the dealer lot this past Saturday for 3 hrs, spent time in and looking at Whitehawks and Jay Flights with both Aluminum and Fiberglass walls. Although it goes against our "the point of going camping is to be outside and the camper is for rest and sleeping" mantra and not getting to large a camper the 28BHBE has everything we would ever want and makes the "resting and sleeping" part more enjoyable. We could sacrifice and go a couple feet shorter but know we would regret it later.

The Whitehawk 28DSBH is the next closest option in regards to floorplan but we would be giving up features we like on the 28BHBE. I really do not like the height of any of the trailers with full size slides but there is no way around it. Coming from a JayFeather it will take some getting used to but in the end I will work through it. When I got my F250 FX4 it seemed so much bigger than my Expedition EL, which it is, but I have gotten used to it.

I will be ordering a Trailer because if we do go with the 28BHBE we will upgrade to the 15K AC and order the 2nd AC Option, Thermal Package and Hide A Bed. There is a BHBE local that has all that on it and the Interior color we want BUT the dealer for some reason did not order the Elite Package which is a must have for me. It is aluminum sided.

So… Now I must decide do I go with Aluminum or the Fiberglass side option. They had a 26BHS with the Fiberglass sides, knocking on them they seemed more hollow than the Vacuum Bonded walls of the Whitehawk/Jay Feather and you could really see the fiberglass strands in the walls whereas the Whitehawk/Jay Feather are smoother.

Although I have only had Fiberglass Sided w/ Alum frame (JayFeather) and when I started this thread that was they way I said I wanted to go but to get the floor plan we want (other than getting an Eagle 284BHBE) I cannot get an Aluminum Framed trailer so I am now down to Wood Frame with Aluminum or Fiberglass siding.

I feel if we go with the JayFlight 28BHBE I should go with Aluminum versus the Hung (Glued on the Wood Studs ???) Fiberglass. Another reason we are leaning Aluminum is me and the DW prefer the old school framed sliding windows versus the Frameless which only tilt out.

I am worried (may be unfounded) about the issues with the Fiberglass coming loose from the wood studs if in fact it is glued on, over time. We are in Florida and live on the coast so it gets pretty Hot and Humid (I run a dehumidifier in the camper at all times) here for many months. My JayFeather did fade over a short amount of time on the front that was exposed to the sun the most and I had to compound and wax it to keep it nice so I am aware of the fading issues with fiberglass.

Does the Aluminum resist the fading a little more? Would not be able to compound it like I did on the fiberglass if so.

Need help deciding…
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Does the Aluminum resist the fading a little more? Would not be able to compound it like I did on the fiberglass if so.

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Well after 6 years my aluminum sided unit shines up nicely! Never been covered or under a cover.
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We have a '15 JF 28BHBE and love it. We are a family of 4, w/ 2 daughters. We've used this for several dance competitions (cheaper than hotel when close to competition). It has a plenty of room for their dance stuff, room for makeup, hair dryers, curling irons, etc. and we love it!! We only got the 30A and no 2nd AC. My first camper on my radar was the JF 26BHS, and it's nice. But the wife liked the U shaped dinet and location of bunks/bathroom better in the 28BHBE. It is long, but being my first, it's all I know and we just take our time. And ours is aluminum sides for weight purposes. Since it's only 1 yr old, I can't attest to fading yet. All I know is I'm planning camping trips 1 & 2 summers out!! There have been a few things the dealer has fixed and glad I have another year to keep shaking it down. And I'm lucky my dealer is about 45 min each way. I hope this helps and love to help because a lot on here have helped so so much before, during and after our purchase.
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Does the Aluminum resist the fading a little more? Would not be able to compound it like I did on the fiberglass if so.

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My 2012, built mid-2011, still has an unbelievable finish on it. I'm in Central California, so that is constant hot sun for 7 months a year and then wet fog during the winter. It sits outside and uncovered always. I do work on keeping it looking good, it's washed (roof and all) every trip and I wax the exterior twice a year. This year I finally switched from Meguires NXT 2.0 liquid synthetic wax to Meguires Gold Class quick wax (spray bottle on and instantly wipe off). Yesterday I applied the second treatment for the year, previous was in April, and I am very impressed. I mention this because I believe if a gel coat fiberglass was washed and waxed as frequently as I do my aluminum sided trailer it would likely maintain a factory finish much longer. I do however compare to two camping buddies TT who wash but not wax, and my trailer looks considerable better although older. The JayFlight fiberglass, being non-gel coat, isn't appealing to me. For the extra weight and money of the fiberglass option I would likely get another aluminum sided trailer if I was shopping. If/when Jayco uses gel-coat on the JayFlight I might reconsider.
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If your gut feeling tells you to go with the aluminum, then go for the aluminum. I would own either one. I was leary of the fiberglass on ours, being filon, but so far a year into it and 6000 miles / heavy use, it's holding up fine. No doubt the aluminum is easier with repairs if needed down the road.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:30 AM   #20
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I wanted to Thank everyone for your feedback both about Aluminum vs Hung Fiberglass on the Jay Flight and your experiences with the 28BHBE in general.

I believe we will be going with an Aluminum 28BHBE and am currently working on ordering one here soon.
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