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Old 10-10-2015, 09:48 PM   #1
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Jay Flight w/ Fiberglass Sidewalls

After selling our '12 Jay Feather X19H this past summer we are working on deciding on our next trailer. After looking at other brands I have once again come back to Jayco. We are moving up to a Bunkhouse for our growing Son and extra room to bring friends with us. After having our Jay Feather I want to stay with the Fiberglass exterior and Aluminum Frame if possible.

Although we want to move up to a Bunkhouse I really did not want to go real big with a new trailer (height, length and weight) after having our Jay Feather Hybrid with the Torsion Axles it allowed us to get in some tight areas as we generally camp in State Parks and like to tuck back in wooded spots but to have a floor flush slide the trailers are higher with leaf springs on top of a solid axle so have no real choice on the height so trying to keep the length down. We have considered the Jay Feather 26BHSW (best option for height, length and weight but still tight on interior space as only the couch slides out a couple feet) and 25BH (2016 MYR) which appears so new there are no photos anywhere on the Internet I could find, the Whitehawk 28DSBH and the Jay Flight 26/27 BHS and 28BHBE, progressively getting longer and heavier.

Towing of any of these trailers is no issue as when I had to replace my tow vehicle this summer after I was was hit in my Expedition EL and it was totaled I made the decision to move up to a '15 F250 CC 4WD 6.2 so my TV would not be an issue going forward.

After weighing all the options we really like the Jay Flight 28BHBE floor plan the best primarily for the Slide End Windows, U Dinette, Bunk Setup with Ladder and the large Shower. It does not fit our smallest trailer with bunks plan but in the long run would have everything we would like and keep us from getting 2 foot itis later on.

Can anyone tell me if a Jay Flight is ordered with the Fiberglass sides are they Aluminum Framed / Vacuum Bonded like the Jay Feather / Whitehawk?

Or is the Jay Flight still all wood framed with the Fiberglass sides attached in some way to the wood frame?

If they are still wood framed is that an issue?

Any info or insight from current owners of a Jay Flight with Fiberglass sides as to pros and cons would be appreciated.

Thank You...
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:07 PM   #2
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On the jay flight they are still stick with a fiberglass outside. But it is still a different process on the Eagles and the white hawks.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:21 PM   #3
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We own the 28BHBE. It has been one of my favorite units out of the ones we've owned. Yes it is wood framed, but the fiberglass is installed in more of a hung fashion, not laminated. Aluminum has it's great selling points, but has it's downside too. I prefer wood framed and hung walls, so I'm the odd ball. This can be debated for pages, but no need. If you have a leak in an aluminum framed laminated trailer, you will have major problems. If you have a leak in a wood framed hung wall or aluminum sided trailer, you will have major problems.


Point is, pick what you like, take care of it, and it will take care of you. Ever notice most of your high dollar full time rigs were wood framed? Think Excel, Teton Homes etc. Can't remember which one, but one used aluminum framing, with wood stud inserts. Best of both worlds.


I actually wanted the aluminum sides where I could make major repairs in my own shop if need be, but the one I have was sitting there, just arrived, and had what I wanted on it, so I bought it with the fiberglass sides.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:02 AM   #4
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We too have a '16 28BHBE. We were mainly drawn to it because of the layout. It works very well for family adventures. So far we love it - no complaints yet, but we have only used it a few times this fall.

I will say, though... ITS BIG. Long. Heavy. Tall. Its called a 28, but from tongue to spare tire it is more like 33-34'. Compared to your prior unit it will be a monster. I have not took it to an actual camp ground yet, but I can see where it will be a bit of a challenge sneaking into some sites. Weight wont be an issue with your new tow rig (congrats by the way!), but it is basically 7000lb empty. I wish they had close to the same layout in a much smaller unit, but yeah I guess that really isn't possible.

You wont be disappointed with it... at least we haven't been yet!
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Hung walls aren't pinch rolled. A true hung wall is glued only to the wall framing members. Forest River Cedar Creek and silverback are true hung wall construction. A plus for the Jayco Jay Flight fiberglass front walls is that they're vacuum boned as opposed to just rolling the front filon over the studs and then fastening only the perimeter. That can lead to puckering.


2. An optional fiberglass package offers a smooth, sleek
look; front walls are vacuum-bonded for added durability,
while the sidewalls and rear walls are pinch rolled, for an
affordable combination
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:30 AM   #6
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We have the 28BHBE with fiberglass walls and love it. Went for the fiberglass for the smooth slick look as it looks less "trailer" (personal choice) No problems after more than a year so far. Yes it is a large TT and shipped weight was 7189lbs. She tows very well and maneuvers very easily into snug sites. We alway opt for campsites that are good for u its to 32' long and have had no issues getting in to them. The floor plan is excellent, the large shower is a big + and the grandchildren love the bunks. (The Denver matress sucks tho. Why Jayco brags about it I don't know). We have only had a few fit and finish issues that were taken care of by our dealer. So far no issues with tires either. We have had no issues with the wood frame construction and the fiberglass is smooth with no bubbles. (I have seen a new Coleman TT going down the street and the delamination on it was horrible to see). In all, the first 14 months have gone very well. I am sure you will be happy with a 28BHBE.
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:37 PM   #7
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Just got our new Jay Flight after a 3+ month wait. It has a wood frame and fiberglass walls. We traded in a 2013
White Hawk that was nothing but trouble for us. We decided after over 25 problems with it that we would trade up. We were talked into a Jay Flight as we were told they are built much better than the Hawk. On our first trip we had the "normal" problems of leaking water pump, bed shocks (that hold the bed up for access to the storage) that malfunctioned and would not allow the bed to lower. Table that rocked, and the killer, the bed broke loose and fell into the storage compartment. I tried to return the trailer for a refund and was told NO. Before I took the unit in for the warranty work I did a complete inspection of the trailer and found that Jayco has made the newer trailers look pretty at the expense of safety and strength. This trailer is no better than the Hawk. I was told that Jayco was aware of the bed problem and never told anyone. It appears that they changed from a 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch bed support to a 3/8 inch thick support. I bet they saved a few pennies on that move. NEVER again will I own a Jayco.
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Not a very good reason to go chase after another brand just to find even more issues. Think maybe you need to join a few more forums. I'm not brand loyal to Jayco at all, but I do like the thing. Just fix the dang thing to your liking. That's what I have always done, and did to this one. 2 fridges had issues, ditched them and put a residential in. Poorly installed swivel TV, ditched it and put a nice solid wall in with 2 TVs, warping molding on sides, replaced with way better for little money, bed frame still to be rebuilt and insulated, but it'll be done soon, and I could go on and on. All done in my shop. It's better than you can get on the lot now. Heck I had more problems with my $100k plus Tiffin. Care to see my list from our 40' Cedar Creek, including rotted slide floor and 3 front caps? Supposed to be top notch right? I understand your frustration, but having owned all types good and bad, I just fix them better than original, save my fuel money opposed to taking it back to dealer, instead of sitting around bickering about how they suck and won't own another.
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Well Big John.... If you read the original post the people asked for information from current owners. I am sure they were not looking for some one to sit around the fire and sing camp songs. I do have experience with rv units. I have owned over a dozen from 9 different mfg. Many did have problems, but 3 had NO problems. I realize every (almost) rv will have some issues, but not all like you stated. My post was meant to help MIFL. I am sorry if my honesty bothers you, but I hope the requesters will read my post and avoid un needed problems.
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Yep, I read it. It's really hard to base a decision off of forum feed back, even though they asked. My thing is, if they avoid Jayco, then go to FR, avoid them due to similar post, go to Keystone, avoid them due to similar post, etc etc. Eventually, you're going to say all of them suck and get out of it all together. Like you, I've owned several, but eventually figured out how to do all of my own work and just fix them instead of worrying too much about it. Don't like seeing people scared away by some posts. I like seeing resolutions to problems and making things better.
Doesn't always seem the manf. wants to make it better, so we do.


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