Jayco Jayflight 32bhds towing

[dawg82]

I am looking into purchasing a 2017 Jayco Jayflight 32 Bhds with a dry weight of 7600#s.My tow vehicle is a 2010 Nissan Titan crew cab 4wd with max tow rated at 9300 GVWR. Would I have any issues towing this camper with this truck. Wife and I really love the bunkhouse layout for the kids and I was hoping I wouldnt have to look into another truck being a diesel to pull it.Any insight would be appreciated.

[homer1959]

Originally Posted by dawg82

I am looking into purchasing a 2017 Jayco Jayflight 32 Bhds with a dry weight of 7600#s.My tow vehicle is a 2010 Nissan Titan crew cab 4wd with max tow rated at 9300 GVWR. Would I have any issues towing this camper with this truck. Wife and I really love the bunkhouse layout for the kids and I was hoping I wouldnt have to look into another truck being a diesel to pull it.Any insight would be appreciated.

Not enough truck I would say 2016 specs the TT GVWR at 9975....

Tongue weight dry ! 910 lbs...whats you max payload in the door jamb ( yellow sticker ) sorry but for me its way too big for that truck :-(

Why looking at a diesel ? You better makes lots of milleage pulling the TT to justify the expense IMHO .

[need-a-vacation]

Welcome!!!

The 32 BHDS with a "brochure" dry tw of 910lbs does not include the weight of a battery or the propane tanks. Those will add ~160lbs before you lid the trailer with anything else for a trip!!!!

There is a yellow sticker in the drivers door jamb of your truck that states "All occupants and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs".... This amount is the rated payload for your truck (all vehicles have this sticker with each specific payload rating). As it states, the rated payload includes all passengers, cargo (coolers, firewood, bikes, etc), any accessories added to the truck (truck cap/topper/tonneau cover, step bars, etc), the wdh (went distribution hitch), and the tt tw (travel trailer tongue weight).... As you can imagine, the weight adds up very quickly!!!

Owning the 32 BHDS, there is no way I would be willing to tow with a 1500/150 unless in an emergency.... Our loaded tw (remember, "dry" is 910lbs) is ~1400lbs.... I need to reweigh after a couple minor changes, but the one time i have weighed our 32 it was about 8700lbs loaded, with a 1400lb tw. I estimate we are now about 9100-9200lns with the bike rack and 4 bikes on the factory Jayco rear cargo hitch. Our "dry weight" per the yellow sticker is 79XXlbs.

Any of the current gas HD trucks with the proper rear axle gearing can tow the 32 BHDS without any issues. A diesel would have a little more guts in the mountains, but a gas truck should be fine with the right gearing as I mentioned.

The model below the 32, the 28 BHBE is borderline pending how you load for a trip regarding the loaded tw.

For a safe, stable tow you need to have between 12-15% tw of the loaded trailer weight. This will vary from trailer to trailer, but having to low of a tw can result in sway, which could end up being a dangerous situation....

Good luck!!!

[jsallman1]

We looked at that trailer. Its nice.

To give you an idea, my dry brochure tongue weight is 765, actual dry weight with cargo is 880 from cat scale trip, and with tanks full I am pushing 1200 tongue weight. This is on a 29bhds, similair front configuration and 2 slides (which add weight over a single grear slide) but shorter by a few feet so its safe to say the 32bhds will be more. It was over the rear axle limit on our old F150 with maxtow by a little.

Do some searching and see if you can find some cat scale results on the 32bhds is my advice, and compare to your payload. You will be likely over, certainly very close.

[mohok1]

I tow a 2009 32BHDS with a 2500 diesel and would not consider any T/V less than a 3/4 ton 2500 Series Pickup. You have to consider the road conditions you will encounter, i.e., head wind and broad side winds can create a unsafe condition quickly if you don't have the proper set up. I wound up having to add a extra sway bar to reduce sway from side winds and trucks passing me. Diesel versus gas. I believe this to be true, my diesel gives me a average mpg of 11. Have talked to campers using gas 2500HD Pickups and they get around 9 mpg on average. When you are hooked up with the 32BHDS your total length is pushing 55' I believe. You need some muscle to carry the load.

Do your research before you take the plunge.

[jsallman1]

Originally Posted by mohok1

I tow a 2009 32BHDS with a 2500 diesel and would not consider any T/V less than a 3/4 ton 2500 Series Pickup. You have to consider the road conditions you will encounter, i.e., head wind and broad side winds can create a unsafe condition quickly if you don't have the proper set up. I wound up having to add a extra sway bar to reduce sway from side winds and trucks passing me. Diesel versus gas. I believe this to be true, my diesel gives me a average mpg of 11. Have talked to campers using gas 2500HD Pickups and they get around 9 mpg on average. When you are hooked up with the 32BHDS your total length is pushing 55' I believe. You need some muscle to carry the load.

Do your research before you take the plunge.

9 is pretty accurate on a ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi.

[need-a-vacation]

Originally Posted by jsallman1

Do some searching and see if you can find some cat scale results on the 32bhds is my advice, and compare to your payload. You will be likely over, certainly very close.

Dawg,

I will post exact numbers once I get home, and describe what has changed since I weighed our rig.

If I remember right, the tongue to bumper length (including spare tire???) is listed as 35'8". I would have to look to see exactly what our truck is, plus the wdh for the overall length. Definitely not short by any means!!! Lol

And about 8-9ish pending the wind for our Chevy 6.0!!!

[need-a-vacation]

Dawg,

Here is my weight slips from when we first bought our 32, and had it loaded maybe 90% or so....

From left to right, the weights are with the wd bars hooked up, wd bars unhooked, and then the truck only.

Weights from top to bottom:
Front axle
Rear axle
Trailer axles
Total weight



When we weighed, none of our boys stuff was in the bunk room: small tv and dvd player, clothes, bedding, etc...

Since then I have done the following:
Shelving in the front wardrobes and hall wardrobe.
Jayco factory rear cargo hitch for our tray style bike rack and 4 bikes.
The fence post sleeve (have 3 of them) mod: have 4 pvc "tent poles" to support a tarp canopy when/if needed, 7' GPL folding ladder, and the sewer hose.

May have missed a couple things, but this should give you an idea what you are up against weight wise with the 32 BHDS. We probably are a little heavier in the front pass through, but even so you will probably be looking at least 1200 or 1300lbs tw minimum if I had to guess even if you pack conservatively.

Hope this helps!!!

[jsallman1]

Just another point for you to consider other than the weight, the overall length. As I said before, we were close to going with the 32BHDS or the 32IBTS (discontinued), but we ultimately decided to go with a bit shorter unit so the overall length was under 35' (we're at 34'11" from tongue to back of spare tire). What we gave up was the rear room separation for the bunks, they are just in the corner of the main living area.

The reasoning was some campgrounds, especially national parks, state parks, etc that are older, start to restrict lengths, even 35' is a little long sometimes but it seemed to be allowed more places than one that was. You can do a little googling, I know Yellowstone will take longer but the sites are limited, here is a post discussing it on another forum. Length limitations at National Parks
If your planning to stay at KOA's, or other mainstream campgrounds, you probably wont run into much of an issue.

Also, the storage we are in happens to charge more for anything over 35', so we just snuck by.

After a year and several weeks of camping, we have found we just don't really stay in the thing that often, so we haven't missed the rear bunk separation and I definitely don't mind the extra few feet not being there when towing.

Good luck on your decision, you're wise to get feedback here ahead of time, wish I had done so. Lots of great information here.

[need-a-vacation]

J has some very good points about the overall length. I know one of the reasons we did decide to go with the 32 BHDS is if my wife's parents decided to join us we would have a ton of sleeping room with the need for the dinette or couch to be made into a bed....

And at 35'8" overall length, plus a 2500HD CCSB, it does take some room to maneuver.

[2500hd]

I pull it with a dually and would not want to do it with less than a 3/4 ton. A Nissan or any half ton would a squirrely ride in my opinion

[homer1959]

Originally Posted by 2500hd

I pull it with a dually and would not want to do it with less than a 3/4 ton. A Nissan or any half ton would a squirrely ride in my opinion

I would not be afraid to haul it with a half built for the task.

my f150 eco supercab can haul 11300 lbs and the payload is 1945 lbs according to the door jamb sticker so i wont have a ton of room but more than enough for a camping season.

[2500hd]

Originally Posted by homer1959

I would not be afraid to haul it with a half built for the task.

my f150 eco supercab can haul 11300 lbs and the payload is 1945 lbs according to the door jamb sticker so i wont have a ton of room but more than enough for a camping season.

Sure by all means use the f-150 especially if staying close to home. What I mean is I would not purchase a half ton truck with the specific idea of towing a 10k 35ft trailer. My setup is almost fifth wheel like with my 1,000lb golf cart in the bed. It is rock steady with new bilstein shocks

[campingn.c.]

Short answer. No, not enough truck at all. Sure there are a FEW half tons that are capable, but only on paper in my opinion.
The Titan is not one of them.

[dawg82]

Thanks for the suggestions. I have decided to sell my Titan and save up for a diesel before we start camping heavy next year.We really only make a couple of long trips but I don't want to take a chance. Seems like every camper we really like is not 1/2 ton towable.

[WVDusty]

I tend to not get involved with this type of question just because as you see you will get the " absolutely " no problem and the " absolutely NO WAY" type of answers. But I own a 2014 32BHDS and I think you are making a very good decision upgrading your truck. Any of the big 3 3/4 tons will do a great job. Good luck.

[homer1959]

Originally Posted by dawg82

Thanks for the suggestions. I have decided to sell my Titan and save up for a diesel before we start camping heavy next year.We really only make a couple of long trips but I don't want to take a chance. Seems like every camper we really like is not 1/2 ton towable.

May i ask you why a diesel ?

Do you put lots of milleage in a year ? Lots of milleage towing or as a daily driver ?

Have you considered the HUGE increase in price and maintenance ?

Just curious :-)

[kickthetires]

I have a 2016 32BHDS and tow it with a 2013 2500 gas. Short trips around the area that truck does just fine. Leaving out friday and taking it on the first long trip. E. KY to Rodanthe NC. I would stay away from the 1500 with a TT of that size

[mohok1]

Hey, kickthtires, would be interested in what MPG's you are getting with your gas 2500HD if you care to share and what you get on your up coming trip to NC. I avg 11 mpg with my diesel @ 64-65 mph pulling my 32BHDS.

[need-a-vacation]

Originally Posted by mohok1

Hey, kickthtires, would be interested in what MPG's you are getting with your gas 2500HD if you care to share and what you get on your up coming trip to NC. I avg 11 mpg with my diesel @ 64-65 mph pulling my 32BHDS.

With our '13 6.0 CCSB 4x4 we get about 8-9ish @ 65ish towing our 32. I haven't weighed our rig again since changing a few things, but estimate ~9200lbs loaded when all 4 bikes are on the bike rack in the rear cargo hitch.