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Old 02-27-2016, 12:27 PM   #21
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I have a Ram 2500 6.4 hemi 4.10. It pulls my 284BHBE (slightly heavier that 28BHBE) very well. I have put on about 700 miles on it towing the trailer mostly flat to hilly so far. A diesel will pull stronger, but I have not been left wanting more so far. It is kind of a pain as a daily driver vs a 1/2 ton, but I only commute to work 10 days a month and parking at work is easy. I always park waaaaay out at the grocery store. I always do with a new vehicle though I get 14 mpg with barely any highway miles... One of the main reasons I wanted a 3/4 ton is that I definitely wanted to be within specs without having to split hairs about what I threw in the back of the truck or in the trailer. I've been getting solid 9-10 mpg towing.
I think your getting such poor mileage because of the 4.10's.
I get way better then you towing.
And from what I hear most Cummins get better then me not towing.

I have 3.42's and have no problem pulling 13500#.
Your motor might end up lasting longer though.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:52 PM   #22
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I think your getting such poor mileage because of the 4.10's.
I get way better then you towing.
And from what I hear most Cummins get better then me not towing.

I have 3.42's and have no problem pulling 13500#.
Your motor might end up lasting longer though.
I was thinking that 9-10 was about par for the course towing my set up. As far as overall, I have gotten way better (closer to solid 20's not towing) on the highway with MDS kicking in, but I rarely drive highway miles...
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:59 PM   #23
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I don't remember where I saw it written, but there was an old rule of thumb mentioned on a truck site which went something like this: if you have a half ton (150/1500) class truck, stick with trailers in the overall length of 24 to 26 feet or shorter; for the 3/4 ton (250/2500) class, stick with overall length of 27 to 32 feet or shorter; and go for a 350/3500 for trailers from 33 to 40 foot or shorter. Of course this was referring to a time before the ultra lite trailers, but it had to with more than just the tongue weight, it also had to do with wheel base lengths and overall lengths to TV weight and lengths. White knuckle events have happened many times when the the trailer tongue weight and total weight are well within the limits of a 1/2 ton class tow vehicle but are simply too long (even with an ultra lite trailer) and you end up with the tail wagging the dog.
With all my ramblings said, I saw some post this earlier and I agree.
I have never heard anyone who tows a trailer or hauls a load with a 3/4 ton or higher class truck say they wish they had a 1/2 ton.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:03 PM   #24
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I was thinking that 9-10 was about par for the course towing my set up. As far as overall, I have gotten way better (closer to solid 20's not towing) on the highway with MDS kicking in, but I rarely drive highway miles...
I dont get near that not towing. But that's what I have heard from other Rammers.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:13 PM   #25
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Yeah, but maybe that's because they didn't have a 400K engine in a hundred K truck!

Just joking. Not trying to start a "mine's bigger" war!
I will just say the 3 Fords I have owned have been the most problematic vehicles I have ever owned. The Ram trucks I have owned have all been problem free.
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Old 02-27-2016, 02:38 PM   #26
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I'd be leaning towards at least a 3/4 ton. We have the same rig, and though we've been accustomed to towing a lot bigger rigs, I won't go any less than what I have. It's a daily driver as well. Fuel mileage depends on how you drive it. Can get 15-20 unloaded, 9-12 loaded. The 28BHBE is not a light rig by any means. I think you'll find pricing between 1/2 and 3/4 tons very close (unless diesel), but you'll get much more peace of mind going with the 3/4 minimum.
What he said.

We towed our X254 (lighter than yours) with our Expedition (1/2 ton like F150) and it wasn't ideal at all. Would never go heavier. We upgraded to a 3/4 ton and it's so much better.
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WHat king of MPG do you get? We are now looking at 2016 Ram 2500. We also have found a used ram 2500 diesel. This is so tough since we have never owned anything other than a 1500.
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WHat king of MPG do you get? We are now looking at 2016 Ram 2500. We also have found a used ram 2500 diesel. This is so tough since we have never owned anything other than a 1500.
My '15 Ram 2500 6.7 is getting 21-24mpg hwy, 15 city and 13-14 towing my 23mbh.
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My F250 2011 diesel is getting about 15.9 combined .. a little better on highway if you are at 70 or less and about 10 pulling
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tmclaren; we have also a Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi but with a 3.92 rear end, which pulls good with a 8000 lbs. load I am not complaining about the fuel economy. It does 1L on 4.1 km in the mountains. I looked at the Ram 2500 which only gives a couple more horsepower, but OK it has a higher payload. When having Airlift 1000 installed in the Ram 1500 (which will not increase GVWR) it rides nice and level the way I wanted.
I have been looking at the Ram 2500 but thought why waist my money. I drive more without a trailer then with. But your 3.55 rear end is not a good trailer puller.
If I would be full timing I would have the biggest of everything.
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