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Old 06-25-2016, 10:51 PM   #1
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Looking to upgrade to a TT. Found a 23MB and have questions

Hello all,

My wife and I went to several dealers in our area today and found a 2015 23MB that we really like that fits what we're looking for and price range.

It was just traded in and I think we're going to go back one afternoon this week after work to go through it more thoroughly. My question is what things should I be looking for on this trailer? I'm pretty sure it does not have the elite package. The website doesn't list it as such.

I like the Jayco line and when you go camping (currently in a pup) you see more Jayco TT than any others and to me there is a reason why.

I'd be pulling with a '99 F-150 4.6L. 3.55 gears. Towing specs are:
GVWR - 6,250 lbs.GCWR - 11,500 lbs.
Maxium Trailer - 6,600 lbs.

Thanks everyone for any advice they give. The past week has been overwhelming just looking and trying to figure out what we want vs. what we need along with what we want to spend.
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Old 06-26-2016, 09:25 AM   #2
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I bought one used TT and had no problems, so the best I can offer is from an experience my sil had when he was a CG officer. He purchased a large 5th wheel & dually from a crooked dealer in FL when he was being transferred from Key West to Long Beach. It was later determined that it had been in Hurricane Andrew and the entire floor failed.

So I'd look for any soft spots in the floor by carefully testing as much of it as possible. Look for ceiling damage that might indicate a leak. A trip to the roof is in order. Check tires for uneven wear that might have different causes. This is stuff you'd probably do anyway. Others with more experience will have much better suggestions.
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:12 AM   #3
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Just my opinion but you may also want to consider upgrading your TV as well. That opinion is based on past experience with a 99 expedition with 4.6 engine a 3.55 gears, towing a pup that had a dry weight about 2400 lbs.
You are looking at going from a pup to a TT that is at least double the weight of your pup.
Use your own experience from towing the pup in the western part of VA and how well it pulled the pup up those hills. Now imagine pulling twice the weight up the same hills.


If I were you I would consider something with at least a 5.4 engine with 3,73 gears.


I am not saying that your present TV won't pull the TT but an upgrade will tow it much better.
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:35 AM   #4
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Appreciate the advice. Where we camp mostly it's roughly a 2000 ft incline but gradual. I can run 75 if I wanted no problem with the pup. I typically set cruise at 68 and let everyone pass so I'm not trying to hit the brakes and gas all the time.

Truck upgrade isn't in the plan right now. Maybe a gear change.

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Old 06-26-2016, 10:57 AM   #5
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Just my opinion but you may also want to consider upgrading your TV as well. That opinion is based on past experience with a 99 expedition with 4.6 engine a 3.55 gears, towing a pup that had a dry weight about 2400 lbs.
You are looking at going from a pup to a TT that is at least double the weight of your pup.
Use your own experience from towing the pup in the western part of VA and how well it pulled the pup up those hills. Now imagine pulling twice the weight up the same hills.
If I were you I would consider something with at least a 5.4 engine with 3,73 gears.
I am not saying that your present TV won't pull the TT but an upgrade will tow it much better.
The TV was my first thought, but I don't like getting into that squabble where the final outcome is usually "it'll have to do."

In the OP's case, what might be a factor greater than the added weight is the added drag of the 23MB. I've pulled a much lighter TT than my current Eagle with the same TV, and MPG difference is negligible. Of course, that might be due to the fact that the dually is not being stressed by either load.

OTOH I've pulled an even heavier load on a flatbed no taller than the cap on my truck several times and gotten a mile or so better MPGs.
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As I said I am not saying the OP's TV can't tow the TT But my experience has taught me it is better to be over powered than under powered. He asked for opinions and I offered mine and was thanked for my opinion.


I would be very interested in hearing what he feels after towing the TT.


There is a huge difference between towing a pup with little frontal area as compared to the frontal area of a TT weighing twice as much.


And again my opinion is based on having the 4.6 with 3.55 rear towing a pup and a TT.
And that is why my current 2004 has the 5.4 with 3.73 I personally feel its much safer and more relaxing towing than with the 4.6


Just a comment to the OP, if you are running at 68 I would suggest that you check and see what the max speed of your tires are rated for.
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As I said I am not saying the OP's TV can't tow the TT But my experience has taught me it is better to be over powered than under powered. He asked for opinions and I offered mine and was thanked for my opinion.
I hope you didn't think I was being critical of your comments. I fully agreed with you. Like I said, I find so many of those TV questions too frustrating to get involved with anymore.
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Old 06-26-2016, 03:24 PM   #8
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Oh no not at all. We actually stopped today and I crawled under to inspect. Did the elite series come with insulation on the bottom or did all of them? They were closed today so I spent some time combing the exterior. Being a 2015 it's not in as good condition as "I" think it should be. Then again I'm starting this process.

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Kantonburg, we have a 23MB that we ordered new. The Elite package on a 2015 includes (amongst other things), pull-out faucet and skylight in kitchen and sink covers, larger fresh water tank, black tank flush, etc. I can't think of what else they included, but if you go to the Jayco website, they have links to the prior model years information. Here's a quick link to their archive.
Btw, we love our Jay Flight. Can't wait to take it out again in a few weeks.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:17 AM   #10
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While at the dealer they have a 2016 26BH Elite (all options) that we really like.

My concern at this point is towing. That model suits us perfect, but what do you guys think? Half say it pulls fine with the 4.6 and half always say go bigger.

This weighs 4700 dry. Figure 600-800 in the trailer with food and supplies. Manual says 6600 max trailer. 11,500 total.
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