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Old 08-18-2016, 05:57 AM   #11
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I'm hoping our FJ will pull ours OK until I can save some money up for a new Tundra, since my 1st Gen Tacoma is too small and modified for the task.

In preperation I've added an 18k GVW stacked plate aux. transmission cooler, Air Lift 1000 rear air bags w/ onboard compressor, Prodigy 3 brake controller w/ 7 prong plug, load range-E 10-ply Cooper S/T Maxx tires, Ultra Gauge, Andersen No-Sway WD hitch and a 4Ucam wireless rear camera. If it will get us through half of next summer camping within 4 hrs from home we'll be good.

I also picked up a Sherline LM 1000 tongue weight scale so I can be sure to not overload the FJ's rated capacity.

I "think" it will do a decent job temporarily.............of course I could always throw in a few safe sways on the way home from picking it up to seal the deal early on the new Tundra
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Old 08-18-2016, 03:24 PM   #12
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I thought the refrigerators in the Hummingbirds were only 2-way (propane/120vac), is this correct?

Or are they actually the 3-way version with 12vdc power option as well?

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Old 08-18-2016, 03:46 PM   #13
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I thought the refrigerators in the Hummingbirds were only 2-way (propane/120vac), is this correct?

Or are they actually the 3-way version with 12vdc power option as well?

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The specs listed on Jayco's website show only a 2-way Norcold - I didn't see an option for 3-way. The 12vdc option sucks up the amps - for the small 2.7cf Norcold I thinks it's about a 12amp draw. You don't get far with a standard Group 24 battery and that kind of draw.
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Ok thanks, that's what I was thinking.

I've read several threads with complaints about refrigerators getting hot while traveling in propane mode (not necessarily Hummingbirds).

Is this a typical issue with propane powered refrigerators?

We have a 12 VDC / 120 VAC Engel 35 qt. refrigerator/freezer for the truck that works really good. It Draws under 2 amps in DC mode. We could use that during travel instead of the one in the TT, but I was hoping not to have to double up on refrigerators due to the extra weight, but if it means avoiding ruined food......
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Okay y'all, I stopped by the dealer today to check on our Hummingbird. It looks like Norcold has received 3 calls this week on the Hummingbird refrigerator issue of heating up. There is some kind of a fix that will help the flame heat the required part instead of being blown about by wind turbulence while traveling. The flame is not being blown out. They should have the part delivered in a few days and then we can try it out again. Yes it is a 120VAC and LP model.
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Ok thanks, that's what I was thinking.

I've read several threads with complaints about refrigerators getting hot while traveling in propane mode (not necessarily Hummingbirds).

Is this a typical issue with propane powered refrigerators?


We have a 12 VDC / 120 VAC Engel 35 qt. refrigerator/freezer for the truck that works really good. It Draws under 2 amps in DC mode. We could use that during travel instead of the one in the TT, but I was hoping not to have to double up on refrigerators due to the extra weight, but if it means avoiding ruined food......
The fridges with the top fridge vent on the side such as the Hummingbird and most of the other smaller units I've seen are not as efficient at venting the heat when compared to units that have roof vents, especially when under tow as the air flowing by the side of the unit can affect how well the heat is exhausted. Installing a vent fan to assist with heat exhaust on the side-vented units makes a noticeable difference.

The inside temperature of the trailer can also have a negative effect on the fridge performance which is why we now have sun screens for all the side windows and the bathroom skylight when traveling on hot sunny days.

I think propane mode is actually more efficient than 120vac but gets a bum rap due to the decrease in performance while going down the road.
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Thanks for the info, I'm going to search for fan assist threads to get some ideas.
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Okay y'all, I stopped by the dealer today to check on our Hummingbird. It looks like Norcold has received 3 calls this week on the Hummingbird refrigerator issue of heating up. There is some kind of a fix that will help the flame heat the required part instead of being blown about by wind turbulence while traveling. The flame is not being blown out. They should have the part delivered in a few days and then we can try it out again. Yes it is a 120VAC and LP model.
When you get it fixed can you let us know what the part number/description is so we can try to have it ready for ours when it gets here?

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Will do!
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When you get it fixed can you let us know what the part number/description is so we can try to have it ready for ours when it gets here?

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Here's the part number: Norcold 629520 Heat Deflector Service Cap Kit
I found it on Amazon. However it has not been road tested to see if this is the cure.
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https://www.amazon.com/Norcold-62952.../dp/B008KWOMQ8
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