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05-18-2015, 02:43 PM
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New to Camping and looking for help
Hello
- no it is not the dramatic help we are looking for.
We are completely new to the RV thing and just ended up on 2 brands after researching the net and visiting decent dealerships.
One brand is Cruiser and the Fun Finder line and the other is Jayco White Hawk line.
We are slightly confused on the weight at the moment.
Our TV limits are a total of 7700lbs towing weight and 600lbs hitch weight.
The Jayco 27DSLR we are looking at shows
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 5,435
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 510
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 7,500
From practical experiences - would you recommend the 27 being that close?
How is a weight distribution aid going to help us on this?
Appreciate your comments
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05-18-2015, 02:47 PM
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You need to know the payload capacity of the Tow Vehicle. Look for a sticker on the door. If it doesn't t say payload, then look for curb weight and subtract that from the tow vehicle GVWR to obtain payload weight.
Payload is the remaining capacity the tow vehicle has for the trainer tongue weight, passengers and any gear you might carry in the tow vehicle
The towing capacity ( 7700lbs) compared to the Trailer GVWR ( 7500) is pretty close - but still under
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05-18-2015, 02:50 PM
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Welcome to the forum.... my post is not helpful, just friendly. You'll find a lot of both on this site.
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05-18-2015, 02:51 PM
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I'm also going to say that the Dry tongue weight will not be the actual tongue weight of the trailer once you add batteries and propane and gear.
A 10% estimate of your trailer GVWR , or 750 lbs of tongue weight.
The Scale is the only accurate way of knowing for sure - but I think you will exceed your tow vehicle payload capacity
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05-18-2015, 02:59 PM
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....And to finishing answering your questions: The Weight Distribution Hitch will move weight forward, off the rear axel, but I don't think it takes it off the tow vehicle, just distributes it forward.
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05-18-2015, 03:09 PM
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Your biggest issue will be the payload as mentioned. Go weigh your TV at a cat scale with full tank of gas and passengers, then subtract that from the GVWR. We had to upgrade our tow vehicle. it had plenty of torque, tow rating and tongue capacity. But with a full tank of gas the wife, the dogs, the hitch and TT tongue weight I only had 47# to spare on the payload, just to close for me.
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05-18-2015, 03:13 PM
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oh wow, you are pretty fast here
Thanks!
It looks like to do a good math or go for a smaller model.
I need to check the car sticker...
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05-18-2015, 03:46 PM
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My TV GVWR is 6400.
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05-18-2015, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny
My TV GVWR is 6400.
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go to truck stop and weigh your TV on a CAT scale. The difference is your max payload
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05-18-2015, 04:30 PM
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I also always recommend contacting you TV manufacture service (no the dealership), with you Vin number. They can tell you AL kinds of info, about the limitations such as the factory hitch, does the vehicle have an automatic transmission cooler, how the calculations are determine. Most of the time it is based on an 170 pound driver and a full tank of fuel.
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05-18-2015, 04:44 PM
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Thumbs-up for the White Hawk!
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05-18-2015, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny
My TV GVWR is 6400.
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What is the curb weight?
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05-18-2015, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmooney
What is the curb weight?
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Curb Weight 4929 lbs
GVWR 6400 lbs
Thanks
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05-18-2015, 06:17 PM
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I have 198RD TW dry from the factory is 510 lbs actual I ended up with 740 lbs and GVWR is 5900 lbs and I am under that. What TV do you have? It seems you're maxed out you better start looking for a bigger TV or get a smaller TT. I was in a similar situation like you. When I pulled the 198RD home it wasn't comfortable at all. So went the next day for a TV what could handle the 198RD with ease.
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05-18-2015, 06:27 PM
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It is a BMW X5 F15 and a pretty good towing car with the diesel engine.
The hitch does not come OEM in the US from BMW and that makes it a little confusing, at least for me.
The Hitch is rated far over the restriction from the TV and the limit comes from the TV as per Hitch manufacturer.
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05-18-2015, 06:37 PM
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. Good luck with your decision and Welcome to the forum
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05-18-2015, 10:11 PM
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This may help
[URL="http://onlinetowingguide.com/guidelines/2015towing_capacities.html"
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05-19-2015, 04:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_OC
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Thanks!
In case of the BMW the do show only figures without brake controller.
It looks like BMW does not want their Big Boys to be used for towing and giving you just a hard time
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05-19-2015, 06:36 AM
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tongue weight on my 26bh includes the weight of both propane tanks filled that is stated on the campers weight sticker
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05-19-2015, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunny
Curb Weight 4929 lbs
GVWR 6400 lbs
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That's good. That leaves you almost 1500lbs of payload.
Tongue weight
Passengers
Gear in tow vehicle
The scale will ultimately tell you what the real tongue weight is of the TT.
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