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Old 07-09-2015, 06:22 PM   #61
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I would agree with that Wags999. I don't always use it. If I plug in the 30, and it falls out, I go to the adapter. I have yet to do this and find a worn out 50. I feel it is better, and SAFER to do this than use the worn out 30A, as with the poor connection, I am sure there is lower than optimal Voltage for my AC compressor etc, and I feel safer knowing there is a solid ground connection. Ironically, when searching the web for issues, the ONLY one I found was a fire in a cord compartment when a 30A to 50A was used in a large MH. I do NOT understand how that happened at all. It sounded to me like they used a 30A cord, and then had the adapter to their 50A shore cord in the compartment, and it shorted. But again, with the 30A CB on the pedestal, I don't get it???
I think if you contacted the campground management or maintenance people they could and would change the receptacle immediately and then it would not be an issue. I have done that at every campground I have worked at, not all that often as it's typically not an issue, but did have to do it about a week ago. Someone previously in that site broke part of the receptacle and hence the plug was not as tight as it should be. Much better option than using a 50 amp plug on a 30 amp cord.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:22 PM   #62
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Interesting...

I never thought about pulling out the entire cord. I just take out what I need to reach the outlet... is this a problem? The rest of the cord stays coiled in it's galvanized steel box. Several of the units we looked at even have cord winders built in to the motorhomes, and they advertise only pulling out as much as is needed.

It's very confusing...
Back to the subject . . . I was told by my Outback dealer to always pull out all the cord when plugged into shore power - especially when running the A/C. That cord gets pressed warm and when it is stuffed into a small compartment, it gets even warmer. So I coiled up the unused cord, tied it up and hung it from the pedestal, to keep it off the ground. (Just one more way for insects/ants to use the cord as a highway into my trailer - was a big deal at Disney World campground!)

It's not a problem now with my 50 amp trailer. The cord isn't stored inside a compartment.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:22 PM   #63
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I think if you contacted the campground management or maintenance people they could and would change the receptacle immediately and then it would not be an issue. I have done that at every campground I have worked at, not all that often as it's typically not an issue, but did have to do it about a week ago. Someone previously in that site broke part of the receptacle and hence the plug was not as tight as it should be. Much better option than using a 50 amp plug on a 30 amp cord.
More than likely they'd send out a summer staffer and he'd bend the prongs of your 30 amp plug.

(Too cynical)?
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More than likely they'd send out a summer staffer and he'd bend the prongs of your 30 amp plug.

(Too cynical)?
Yep... I am a summer work kamper...but... I was also a licensed electrician. Typically a campground will have someone capable of performing minor electrical, carpentry, plumbing with no problems.

At times you do need to get "inventive" as to how to handle a situation. To make long story short, at one campground, which was very old, we had issues when the temperatures got very high (over 100) which happened rarely. I had to actually hold bags of ice on the breakers in the main panel to help cool them down. They were in the direct sun, with freezer/refrig compressors in the room behind them...totally horrible installation...but we got through the situation and were able to do a longer term remedy with turbo fans in the roof etc.

Not all work kampers just sell over priced wood LOL

I would give them a chance to make it right, before writing off the campground.
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I think wags999 is right in some campgrounds, and others, not so much. Last trip,about 7 weeks ago, in May, took my Attitude toy hauler to MO to dirt bike with my son. Day 1, 13 hours drive to Amarillo RV Ranch. Check in at 7pm local, raining, 30A falls out. They seem well staffed, and very nice, but I figure they are not coming out and change recep in the rain, and I am tired, ready for dinner, a beer and bed, so I use adapter. In fairness to them, they may have done it, and I did not give them a chance. Very nice park and staff. After a week in MO, headed home. 13 hours drive, stay at the only RV park in Santa Rosa NM. Checked in about 6:10, and the guy at the desk seems pissed that he has to be there after 6p. Don't think anyone else is working anywhere at the park. 30A is loose. First I remount the door on the pedestal that fell off, then use the adapter.
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I think wags999 is right in some campgrounds, and others, not so much. Last trip,about 7 weeks ago, in May, took my Attitude toy hauler to MO to dirt bike with my son. Day 1, 13 hours drive to Amarillo RV Ranch. Check in at 7pm local, raining, 30A falls out. They seem well staffed, and very nice, but I figure they are not coming out and change recep in the rain, and I am tired, ready for dinner, a beer and bed, so I use adapter. In fairness to them, they may have done it, and I did not give them a chance. Very nice park and staff. After a week in MO, headed home. 13 hours drive, stay at the only RV park in Santa Rosa NM. Checked in about 6:10, and the guy at the desk seems pissed that he has to be there after 6p. Don't think anyone else is working anywhere at the park. 30A is loose. First I remount the door on the pedestal that fell off, then use the adapter.
Man Tim, you have bad luck...stayed at three parks and two of them had bad receptacles. To be honest, I have never run into a bad receptacle in all the years I've traveled. Some better than others, but none my EMS would not work properly using the 30 amp receptacle. Hope you told the campground about your problems so they could fix it before the next poor soul arrived.

Lots of good dirt bike areas a lot closer to Az then MO! LOL.
Hope you had a good time.
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Lots of good dirt bike areas a lot closer to Az then MO! LOL.
Hope you had a good time.[/QUOTE]


Yep, Love Chadwick MO! Lots of riding in the winter NW or NE of Phoenix, but too hot at the end of May. Greenies have gotten too much closed in Flag, Not wet enough in Southern AZ, where I am, until July thru Sep. But Taylor Park CO will be just right in about 3 weeks!!! All primitive there, so as long as my EU2000i recep is in good shape, I should be fine. LOL!
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Just a comment to warn others who have taken the time to read a majority of the posts in this thread.

There is MUCH mis-information being passed in this thread. The lack of understanding of electricity is obvious in so many posts. There are too many wrong ideas to address them all.

Advice: Whatever you find in this thread you need to verify though other sources.
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Just a comment to warn others who have taken the time to read a majority of the posts in this thread.

There is MUCH mis-information being passed in this thread. The lack of understanding of electricity is obvious in so many posts. There are too many wrong ideas to address them all.

Advice: Whatever you find in this thread you need to verify though other sources.
Just a common sense piece of advice . . . if you aren't sure, don't do it. And don't assume the people camping next to you have the definitive answer, either. Better safe than sorry is my motto.
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With all due respect, I for one, have a B.S. in Engineering, and the understanding of risk involved, and I will continue using my adapter. I do understand that a short in the cord could happen upstream of my 30A breaker, but I also know that I could be killed driving to the campground, or get struck by lightning while I am there. I also know that I could take my dog bone, plug it into a 50A service, take my 30A to 15A adapter, and plug it into my dog bone, then plug in a 15 A lamp cord, with bare ends, short out the 14 ga lamp cord bare ends, and the 50A breaker would trip.

As far as code and legality, in our litigious, nanny state society, with this "disaster waiting to happen" product, which I can pick up at every RV store in the country, not to mention Wal Marts etc., or order from a plethora of online stores, like Amazon, and is made by large companies with deep pockets like Camco and Progressive, and Nada. With all of our social media and online content, I can't find one lawsuit, fire, or disaster story related to the adapter...
This post is one of the better posts in this thread. It is based on facts. Not what somebody heard somewhere. Good going Tim L.

There is nothing wrong with using an adapter when the occasion calls for it. Better to use the adapter and plug into a solid 50 amp receptacle than use a worn 30 amp. A loose 30 amp receptacle will generate heat and melt the plug. This will also result in low voltage to the camper while this connection arcs and builds heat. The 50/30 amp adapter is a wise choice here. You are still limited to 30 amps by the camper breaker. If the camper service cable were to short (extremely unlikely) it WILL trip the 50 amp breaker in the pedestal.
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