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Old 01-02-2016, 11:23 AM   #11
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A lot of vehicles, including recent vintage F-150 and F-250 trucks, have a very soft first leaf spring. They do that so the truck has a better ride when unloaded, which most are most of the time.

When you apply a load to the bed or hitch that first spring will compress to the second and subsequent spring layers. The squat is a function of that first spring being compressed. Most of the load capacity is in the second and subsequent springs.

Air bags will resolve the squat but I've been told it's hard to remove it with tension on the hitch spring bars.

I think the easiest way to tell if your vehicle is "squatting" is to check where the headlights shine at night. Headlights in the treetops = squat.
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Looks can be deceiving. That's why WD hitch setup instructions say to measure, front and rear, before and after hitching.



I recently raised the ball on my TV hitch and need to remeasure to see if my weight distribution bars are still set correctly. My TV and TT look OK and tow OK, but I'm not sure if I need to change the weight on the front axle.

And that should have been what the dealer did when he installed the WDH. The truck pulls my setup perfectly. I was just making an observation that things sometimes look odd.
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:16 AM   #13
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And that should have been what the dealer did when he installed the WDH. The truck pulls my setup perfectly. I was just making an observation that things sometimes look odd.
Keep in mind that while your dealer may have set up the wdh pretty darn close for your tt, all dealers have no knowledge exactly how the customer will load the tt, so adjusting the wdh for a loaded trailer is like playing the lottery. Some hit the jackpot, some can't even break even adjusting for an empty trailer!!! Lol

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Welcome!!!

Here is a link to setting up a wd hitch.

As mentioned, hitting the CAT scales is the best, but you can get close by measuring the front end height. Read your owners manual of the GC to see what is recommended for a wdh adjustment. Some vehicles need 100% of the weight lost from the front axle to be restored, some only 25% or 50% (newer vehicles). I would guess your GC needs 100% of the weight restored. This means that the front axle weight of the GC without a trailer hooked up is the same as after you're hooked up once the wdh is adjusted and installed. When you hook the tt up, but before you latch up the wd bars the front axle will have lost weight due to the tt tw (tongue weight) being placed on the ball. Once the wd bars are latched up some or all of the "lost weight" will be restored to the front axle. This depends on how the hitch head is adjusted.

As for the mpg, welcome to the RV Club!!!! Lol With our setup (listed below) we get ~7-9mpg towing here in Mi. Even towing our 12' clamshell snowmobile trailer we only get about 10mpg. And our 2 sleds and trailer weigh maybe 2300lbs....

Good luck!!!
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I guess I got lucky but I will have to keep what you said in mind. My 23mbh does not have a front pass through and only has two small storage locations up front. However the trailer we were thinking of upgrading to has a huge pass through and we would probably load that up more. I will keep those things in mind when we upgrade
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Old 01-04-2016, 07:02 AM   #15
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Still waiting on the day someone finds out how to arrange axles on TT's like a wagon. Hitch weights would be considerably lower!


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Still waiting on the day someone finds out how to arrange axles on TT's like a wagon. Hitch weights would be considerably lower!


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Still waiting on the day someone finds out how to arrange axles on TT's like a wagon. Hitch weights would be considerably lower!


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Start with one of these and build your own:
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This is the only reason I can see for the "Max Trailer Weight" number. "I'm towing 30k# and have a tongue weight of 75#"
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Get a pick-up truck, mount a truck camper, install a tow bar on the front then hook it up to whatever. Instant camper with no tongue weight.
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I think it would be cool to try! Would have to figure a leveling system out. Maybe 4 wheel hydraulic levelers with the ability to level up to 8 inches side-to-side. Then drop your normal stabilizers to steady the unit. Tongue/Pin weights would pretty much be null. But, this would most likely cause over zealous campers to tow more than they can handle!


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Just don't try and run that trailer at 60mph! oh boy!
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