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Old 03-08-2016, 02:01 PM   #131
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White and black colors don't usually mix together. Some might have done a DIY job and used them for the same purpose. Be sure to check where they are going before you connect them. If they are white and have to go on the Batt.+ put some black tape on them.

Black or Red goes on the Batt. plus and white is the ground and will go on Batt. minus and goes to trailer frame.
The wire from the Power Jack goes on the Batt.+

Best thing is to tie rip the plusses together and also the minuses together so they don't get mixed up where they belong.
No the white is separate and on its own then 2 blacks are tied together. Then there is a separate black wire coming out of the power jack. So do I connect all 3 blacks to the positive and the white to the neg?
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:13 PM   #132
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Yes.

The power jack is grounded to the frame so that is its negative lead. The black lead goes to the positive battery post as mentioned.

Let us know the charge on the battery after a couple days. What is the charge with the charger attached and charging? You mentioned 16volts before. That is too high. If that is the battery tender it should be around 13.2 volts or so.

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Old 03-08-2016, 02:21 PM   #133
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I just went out and found my trickle charging flashing on "check battery" so I unplugged it and tested with Multimeter. It read 18.00. I am bringing it now to auto part store. Wish me luck!!!
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Just got back from auto parts store.....their tester told them it was a bad battery. It was only showing 426 charge. It should be 625. I explained that I didn't have it on the trickle charge that long but they still inssited that their testers are accurate. After I left them I called the dealer I got the camper from because they told me they gave me a brand new battery when I bought the used camper. They must have a warranty right? Well when I called them they said I would have to drop it off to them so they can charge it overnight and then load test it. So I asked them if they were going to replace it if it doesn't charge and he couldnt give me an answer....makes me so mad. The dealer is a 45 minute drive from my house. Now I have to go there 2 days in a row for this. This is a major pita! I will never let a battery discharge again!
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Think about upgrading the battery if they don't replace it. Going up to a group 27 will give you a bit more capacity if you like to camp without a plugin. Or if they offer to replace maybe you can add a little cash to upgrade as well.

If they don't offer to replace it get a battery somewhere else. It will be cheaper.

Sorry to hear it is toast though but I think this is really common. When I go to our storage lot all I hear is the faint beep from a propane or CO detector indicating a low battery. A proper battery disconnect should be installed on every trailer from the factory considering it only takes a week or two to run down a trailer battery in storage.

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Don't know if you have your settings correct on the multi meter, because it never can be 18 not on trickle charger connected.

NO..never let the battery discharge because it is not good for the battery and they will not replace it if is it is defect. Always maintain it with a 3 or 4 stage charger.
That's why I leave my TT plugged in at home. Or the other spare batteries are on a 3 stage charger.
Hope if the dealer charges and test your battery that the battery hold charge. If not I wish you luck they will replace the battery for you. If not start shopping around as Subaru297 said. Prices will vary and tell them what you want for specifications on the battery........then they will not mislead you.
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I don't plan to upgrade because I never camp without hook ups. The only thing I even would need the battery for is the power jack otherwise I would keep it off. Can I get something smaller just to keep my jack powered?
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Pull the main fuse by the battery or pull the positive cable off of the battery. Take the voltage when you disconnect the battery from the TT. The voltage should be 12.6 or higher (should be 13.3 if the charger was just disconnected, this is know as the FLOAT stage, keeping the battery topped off voltage). Let the battery sit for a day (battery at rest) and then take the voltage again. The voltage should still be 12.6 or greater. The Interstate 85Ah battery that is sitting under my workbench (use it for different low voltage projects) has not had a charge on it for over a month and it is at 12.93 yet. The other battery is still in the shed and just checked that one and the voltage is 12.78. These batteries were mfr in July of 2012.

The main thing (maintenance wise) is to keep the battery water level a 1/4" above the plates, yet below the ring you see (keeps from splashing through the battery cap vent hole and on top of the battery), also make sure that all your terminals are tight and CLEAN. That is pretty much it for maintenance.

The one thing that you need to keep in mind about sales people (auto parts, RV sales... ) is that they are looking to pad their pocket books, and as for RV sale people, they know nothing about batteries or electronics. To MOST of them they can make a good battery look bad. (Cha-Chingh)!! The test that they do at auto parts stores using the load meter is primarily for automotive batteries. They test for cranking power. Which reminds me my truck is down to the 520 range, almost time to replace.

The key thing to remember is when you are not using the TT, pull the main fuse.. even when you have the battery on a SMART charger, less power goes to the TT electronics and more to the battery.

Here is what a smart TT battery charge controller (the one in my TT) output looks like over time.
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You not only need power for your Power Jack but also for your electric. brakes. And it would be illegal to travel without a onboard battery on your TT. The Power Jack can run off the trucks 7 prong outlet (if the dealer get that working).
I am sure when they test your battery it wouldn't be a total dead one, it would be probably good enough where you use it for. Just wait for a answer of the RV dealer and go from there.
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Batteries has to be maintained, without a charger it still looses approx. 1% a day of its full charge. If the battery is forgotten for a long time you still can have a dead battery.
Properly battery testing is done with an Hydro meter, but it seems the average person isn't using that tool.
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