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07-01-2015, 05:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michigancampermcsmrs
We use a surge protector, water pressure regulator & water filter. Cheap insurance. No problems to date.
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X2 on all three items mentioned.
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07-01-2015, 06:47 AM
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I just bought a Progressive PT50-C. I had a TRC surge protector that was fried when nearby lightning caused a surge. Sent it back to TRC and they said it is not repairable but offered to sell me a new unit at a discount. I was not to happy to hear it is not repairable.
BTW, the Progressive is repairable if needed.
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07-01-2015, 12:55 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
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X~ on Progressive EMS. I installed a hard wired 30A in mine and I sleep much better.
Happy RVing,
Jeff
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07-01-2015, 01:14 PM
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I run pedestal --> Surge Guard --> Autoformer --> coach.
My reasoning:
A. Surge Guard is cheaper than the Autoformer and provides some EMS capability as well.
B. Autoformer is protected from a spike, but can raise my voltage to the coach within the parameters of the surge guard's EMS function
You're FAR more likely to run into low voltage at a campground than you are a catastrophic strike. Low voltage will kill your appliances and electronics slowly. I knew I was going to get a Autoformer right out of the gate. I view the Surge Guard as protection for my Autoformer !!
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07-01-2015, 02:15 PM
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Location: queen creek
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The park we stay at has a few 50 amp spots, mostly 30 amp. We have an adapter so we an use the 30 amp spots. Wondering if the surge protector can be plugged into the adapter or would we have to buy 2?
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07-01-2015, 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildwillie
The park we stay at has a few 50 amp spots, mostly 30 amp. We have an adapter so we an use the 30 amp spots. Wondering if the surge protector can be plugged into the adapter or would we have to buy 2?
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I use the dogbone 50-30 amp adapter and put my surge guard on the 50-amp side. It works just fine.
And another tip I haven't seen here . . . when I am choosing a campsite at a state park, I always plug in the surge guard BEFORE I level the trailer, unhook, and set up the camper. More than once I have found a shore power pedestal to have a problem and was able to easily move to another site. That prevented me from the pain of having to pack up, hook back up to the truck, and move to another site. And don't ask me how I bacame so smart about that!
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07-01-2015, 02:48 PM
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Member
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Location: queen creek
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Thank you and great idea to plug in before and avoid the move!
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07-21-2015, 05:34 PM
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Location: Oklahoma City
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I have the same as Scoutr2 and am now wondering if I should upgrade. I don't see that it protects from low voltage and it doesn't appear to have a A/C delay. Or am I wrong? I just don't want to have a false sense of security.
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07-22-2015, 12:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AugerN
I have the same as Scoutr2 and am now wondering if I should upgrade. I don't see that it protects from low voltage and it doesn't appear to have a A/C delay. Or am I wrong? I just don't want to have a false sense of security.
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Depends on what model surge guard you have, some of them do have low voltage and AC delay.
I hardwired a Progressive EMS into my trailer and it did it's job with the first week. Went to a restaurant with another couple and when we got back the EMS was showing a previous error of low voltage. So while we were gone it detected low voltage, cut power to the trailer, then restored power when the voltage climbed.
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07-22-2015, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Filthy-Beast
Depends on what model surge guard you have, some of them do have low voltage and AC delay.
I hardwired a Progressive EMS into my trailer and it did it's job with the first week. Went to a restaurant with another couple and when we got back the EMS was showing a previous error of low voltage. So while we were gone it detected low voltage, cut power to the trailer, then restored power when the voltage climbed.
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I had the same experience with my Progressive EMS. Excellent results from their 800 support line too.
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07-22-2015, 02:17 PM
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Location: Oklahoma City
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It's the 44270. The same as in Scoutr2's picture.
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07-22-2015, 06:23 PM
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Hey Mike (Scout2), What can be damaged with low voltage? I understand that thinks may not run properly...
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07-22-2015, 06:27 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Arvada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skidsjayco
Hey Mike (Scout2), What can be damaged with low voltage? I understand that thinks may not run properly...
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"thinks" should be "things". (I hate my typos and I just do no see them until it is too late!)
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07-22-2015, 08:06 PM
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Location: Bartonville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skidsjayco
Hey Mike (Scout2), What can be damaged with low voltage? I understand that thinks may not run properly...
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Your A/C compressor can be damaged, for one. Here's some text I found from the Refrigeration Service Engineer's Society:
"Many motor failures can be directly traced to the
malfunction of electrical components.
Low voltage often contributes to component malfunction,
and ultimately to compressor failure.
To be sure that the voltage being supplied is within
the accepted tolerance stamped on the units nameplate,
always check the supply voltage while the unit
is under load. A +/- 10% deviation from the nameplate
value is usually acceptable, but many 208/230-v
motors will present problems if the voltage being supplied
is more than 5% below the nameplate value
(that is, the lower voltage on multi-voltage motors)."
You can read more on their page: KEEP A CLOSE WATCH ON YOUR VOLTAGE by Dave Kaspersin
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07-22-2015, 09:24 PM
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#35
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Silverdale
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I have Progressive Industries EMSPT30C Surge Protector, now with lifetime warranty. It works very well for me. Have not experience any problems with campsites pedestal yet but I know I'm protected when it does.
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07-29-2015, 03:56 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AugerN
It's the 44270. The same as in Scoutr2's picture.
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that is surge only and you are correct it does not provide low voltage protection
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