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Old 09-08-2014, 08:36 PM   #11
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you really have to drive a ton of miles to even think of covering the costs of a diesel truck and only if it is trouble free as well. A major mechanical failure and you will never recoup the costs. Diesel is great if you need diesel but if you are keeping this size trailer for a long time stick with gas IMO..


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Old 09-08-2014, 08:39 PM   #12
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In your situation you do not NEED a diesel. If you WANT one, that`s another matter.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:41 PM   #13
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In your situation you do not NEED a diesel. If you WANT one, that`s another matter.
X2..or can afford one sure why not.

If I win the lottery I am buying an F450 just for kicks to haul my hybrid
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:50 PM   #14
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I'm a diesel only buyer, but you only need the Ecoboost ford. My son just traded his 2014 ford diesel for the Ecoboost. He tows a 6000# boat with no problems.
He had total problems with the ford 6.7. Found out lots folks having problems. If you get a diesel get a dodge.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:52 PM   #15
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I like having an SUV when I'm in "dad-mode", driving the family around. I would prefer a truck for "fun-mode" like camping, fishing, biking. Unfortunately, camping is a very small slice of my time, so SUV wins. Luckily for us, there are many SUVs available that are capable tow vehicles.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:04 PM   #16
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There's so much talk about "paying" for the increased cost of a diesel. People really struggle with the decision, but it's not really that hard. If you need a diesel to pull your rig, then that's how it is. Cost is not a factor, you shouldn't buy a diesel thinking you'll recoup the cost differential, you should buy one because you need it to haul with. Cars are not investments, they're tools, and you simply need the best tool for the job purchased at the best price. Beyond that, its just spending money. Unless you have crap tons of money, then the previous comment does not apply to you.

But there's no reason you need a diesel for 5000 lbs. it's simply not the best tool for the job.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:13 PM   #17
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I have truck and trailer noted below. The Ecoboost is a great engine, pulls well, and I don't get a lot of screaming RPM going up the hills here in WV. I too get 8 mpg cruising on the interstate in Tow/Haul at 64 mph. I'm am debating going to 2500 and then new 6.4 Hemi or used Cummins. For HD, I'm a Ram guy. I say go with the EcoBoost and put a cap or hard tonneau on it. I am a huge fan of hard coverage for the bed, and you can take it off for the things that won't fit.

Still undecided and will likely wait as camping season nearly over for us, but it is also year end clearance time, so good deals are out there.
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There's so much talk about "paying" for the increased cost of a diesel. People really struggle with the decision, but it's not really that hard. If you need a diesel to pull your rig, then that's how it is. Cost is not a factor, you shouldn't buy a diesel thinking you'll recoup the cost differential, you should buy one because you need it to haul with. Cars are not investments, they're tools, and you simply need the best tool for the job purchased at the best price. Beyond that, its just spending money. Unless you have crap tons of money, then the previous comment does not apply to you.

But there's no reason you need a diesel for 5000 lbs. it's simply not the best tool for the job.
AMEN!! Best response I have read, and I've read a lot on this debate over the past 2-3 weeks.
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:18 PM   #19
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I completely agree with the point that the truck is a tool. If your future plans include a larger trailer, then it makes sense to oversize your tow vehicle now for the future. While it's not the absolute rule, but what I have seen is most people who have a diesel wouldn't go back to gas.

I've had both. I had a Hemi Durango with 2.92 gears (a very stout towing capacity) then towed that same trailer with an F250 Diesel. While the Durango's Hemi and 3.92 rear had more than enough power, the overall stability of the package was far from desirable, partially due to the short (119") wheel base and the tires.

After switching to the F250 Diesel, I pulled that camper for 1 more year then traded it in for a 5th Wheel. Even though my 6.0 has NOT been trouble free (Yes, they are expensive to repair) I will get another diesel when this one is completely spent. Next time though it'll be a Dodge!

So, like it's been said above, do you need a Diesel? Probably not, but if your future plans include a larger trailer OR you want one.... I've never regretted the diesel route
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:23 PM   #20
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I have a trailer of similar size and weight and my Expedition handles it with ease. Downside is day to day mileage is so bad that it rarely gets driven.
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