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Old 06-11-2011, 11:01 AM   #31
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...someone else was able to sum up the sensations they are feeling while towing a trailer and being new to the whole thing. I feel that same way and am also new to towing a TT. Sounds like there are a lot of opinions on adjustments to the towing set up as well.

p.s. I'm still trying to figure out if what I have for a WDH includes sway bars, since I don't quite understand the difference with a sway bar and the two heavy bars and chain adjustments I have on mine. My head might explode!

A picture of your setup would help us let ya know what ya got.
Some WD systems integrate sway control into the system using the spring bars such as the Reese Dual Cam or the Equalizer. With a sway bar, it hooks up to a small ball pivot on the side of the A frame of the trailer on one end and hooks up to another on the hitch. Some use two sway bars, one on each side of the frame.

This is a sway bar:

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Old 06-11-2011, 11:08 AM   #32
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This is a Reese Dual cam with integrated sway control, no sway bars needed:

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Old 06-11-2011, 11:10 AM   #33
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This is a regular WD hitch with NO sway control: Does that clear things up a bit? I know all this can be confusing and overwhelming at first, but it gets easier. We`ve all been there.

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Old 06-13-2011, 07:45 PM   #34
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Thanks to all who have posted in this thread. I'll be heading out this weekend for another trip, but will take a few days before to try and reel this issue in. I'll post what I find.

Thanks again!
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:27 AM   #35
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So I have taken some measurements and made a change to my set up. When I measured the TT while hooked up to the truck and on level ground, I found that the trailer was 3 inches lower in the front than the rear. This includes the WDH being hooked up. So it wasn't level and my guess is when the connection flexed (hit a bump in the road) this is would cause the TT weight to transfer forward and down on the rear of the TV and then cause the bouncing or porpoise feeling. So the next step was to raise the ball height 2" and measure again. After raising the ball height and hooking up the WDH, the trailer now sits about a 1/2 higher in the front. I'm going to guess once I add the weight from gear and water it will level out.

I'm leaving today of a quick weekend trip , so I will update how it went when I return.

Thanks again to all for the help and have a great weekend!
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:19 PM   #36
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Well hopefully that got it! Your hitch setup is nearly identical to my 26BH. Interesting I never noticed how inset the receiver is on that Dodge. My Chevy's receiver is at the bumper edge. Not sure what if any difference that makes, but found it curious.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:22 PM   #37
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snip......I'm leaving today of a quick weekend trip , so I will update how it went when I return......snip
Eredinger,

Here are two of your thumbnail pics lightened up for clarity:





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Old 06-21-2011, 04:29 PM   #38
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So after a crazy drive home with the 26BH I have come to a conclusion.

I believe the 26BH is to large/heavy with my gear for my TV. When I look at the 1548 lb max payload and do the math, I have around 595 dry hitch weight, 2 deepcycle battries 80 lbs, the 4 people 425, WDH 80 lbs, the 13-15% additional hitch weight from the gear loaded in the TT 175bs, generator and gear in the back of the truck 200lbs, Im roughly at 1,555 lbs. That puts me 7lbs over my payload of the TV. This does not include filling up the 2-45 gallon water tanks (720 lbs and additional 108 hitch weight) which I might never do.

My main consern is the safty of my family and it seems to me even if I change the P rated tires to LT, the TV is still at or beyon it limits and that would be a waist of $$$.
I know some others are using a 1/2 ton TV to pull the 26BH, but how can you not go over your max payload?

Do the numbers seem right? I'm looking at 3/4 trucks now.

Any advice is welcome!
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:48 PM   #39
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This is the problem we all face with half tons, once the payload is exceeded large impressive tow ratings become moot, and many salesman go by the tow ratings of the vehicle when saying it can be pulled. I know I`m marginal also if not over. My only suggestion would be to load as lightly as possible, leave the genny home if practical, carry small amounts of water, upgrade tires and shocks, consider airbags or Timbrens, or as you are considering go to a 2500. Also weigh your rig to see just where you stand on weights.
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Last month we towed to a c/g just an hour away. I was shocked at how mushy the ride was and how the rear of the truck bounced up and down. We actually had some sway.

Don and I thought we really screwed up packing. As it turned out, we had forgotten to add air to the tires (we keep them lower when not towing). We find that increasing the air in back tires to 50psi and 45psi in the front eliminates the mush and pretty no more bounce. Hope this helps somehow
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