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Old 12-05-2015, 09:08 PM   #1
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Question W/D hitch for 2015 Jayflight 26rks?

My dealer set me up with an EAZ lift W/D hitch with 800lb. spring bars. I questioned this at the time thinking it should have 1000lb. bars. They said it is good enough. Does anyone any one else have a 2015 Jayflight 26rks that you can tell me what you use? Thanks.
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:41 AM   #2
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GVW of trailer is 8400lbs.. 15% of that as tongue weight= 1260lbs.
Probably a good idea to get bigger bars...
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My dealer set me up with an EAZ lift W/D hitch with 800lb. spring bars. I questioned this at the time thinking it should have 1000lb. bars. They said it is good enough. Does anyone any one else have a 2015 Jayflight 26rks that you can tell me what you use? Thanks.
You trusted what a dealer told you?

Just kidding I would get at least the 1000lb bars for that trailer.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:46 AM   #4
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I know, I'm kicking myself for listening to the dealer because I had allready done the math. Now I'm going to have to buy 1000lb bars after allready paying for the wrong ones.
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snip........They said it is good enough.....snip
I disagree.

I would go back to your RV dealer and advise them that they provided you with an "underrated" WDH for the 26RKS...., and that with the Jayco designed loaded weight potential of the 26RKS the 800b rated WDH could easily create a TV handling and safety issue. Plus, you advised them at the get-go you felt a 1,000lb rated WDH would be more appropriate based on your calculated loaded TT weights. With most standard WDH brands this would only require the "dealer" swapping out the spring bars.

As mentioned the 2015 26RKS has a 8,400lb GVWR. The published UVW is 5,605lbs, but the actual "shipped" UVW is heavier (actual shipped UVW is noted on TT yellow sticker).

The 26RKS is a 29ft long TT, so a loaded tongue weight in the 13% to 15% range (of loaded gross weight) would be recommended for adequate TV handling.

Scenario #1 (worst case): TT loaded to GVWR of 8,400lbs = 1,092lbs to 1,260lbs loaded tongue weight.

Scenario #2 (moderate case): (5,605 UVW) + (400lbs for ship weight delta) + (100lbs Dealer added battery, etc.) + (700lbs cargo, no fluids) = 6,805lbs Loaded TT

A 6,805lb loaded TT = 884lb to 1,020lb recommended loaded tongue weight range. An 800lb rated WDH is not sufficient.

Incorporating your actual 26RKS's shipped UVW, add weight for fluids if applicable, if your loading habits are on the heavy side adjust accordingly..., for a more accurate representation.

If you dealer disagrees with the above examples then IMO they are not looking out for your best interest.

Hope this helps.

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Old 12-06-2015, 11:09 AM   #6
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Your real close on the loaded weight. I weighed it on the last trip, 6780lb. 860lb on TV with spring bars on so some of the tongue weight was transfered to the trailer. I couldn't tie up the scale long enough to properly get the accual tongue wt. I've been thinking about contacting the dealer again but this isn't the only dissapointment with them after voicing my concerns twice I don't know if it will do any good. Might just buy them and chaulk it up to experiance
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snip....... I've been thinking about contacting the dealer again.....snip
I would definitely rattle your RV dealership's cage on the WDH issue....., to many dealerships are sending folks out on the road with under-rated WDH's.

Every RV dealership should have at least one representative (tech, etc.) that understands how a WDH functions and how to properly size it to a specific TV/TT combination....., heck, it's not rocket science!

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I would call the mfg. i have a blue ox wdh and needed heavier bars. They swaped them out at no charge. I just paid to ship the old ones back. May be worth a call.
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Old 12-06-2015, 04:20 PM   #9
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Thanks for the input. I'll contact the dealer again now that I have the scale reciepts to proove the hitch is under rated. If that doesn't work I'll try the manufacterer and see what they say. I should have trusted my instincts and insisted on the 1000 lb bars in the first place. This dealer has been around forever so I trusted they new what they were doing.
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Do your current bars allow you to setup the tow vehicle properly? If you're getting the right weight transfer to the front of the tow vehicle then they're fine. Have you actually measured the front of the TV to see if it's right?
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With some TV/TT combinations underrated WDH spring bars may have the ability to transfer (return) the required amount of weight to the TV's front suspension under "static" conditions...., but while "in-tow" the underrated spring bars may have difficulty "maintaining" the initial weight transferred, especially under less then ideal road conditions.

Just thinking out loud here

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My tongue weight is about 1280 lb. and my dealer told me that 1200 lb. bars are fine. I inquired about 1400 lb. bars but they told me I should be fine with the 1200 lb. bars. I towed it twice with the 1200 lb. bars and it felt great, handled great, braking, everything. I still opted for heavier bars which I had to pay additional for. A little, don't wanna say rough, but sturdier ride. To be honest, I like the feel of the lesser bars myself.
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I havn't measured it but the front axle of the TV weighs 100lbs less with TT hooked up. TV sits level and the front of TT is ever so slightly lower.
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My tongue weight is about 1280 lb. and my dealer told me that 1200 lb. bars are fine. I inquired about 1400 lb. bars but they told me I should be fine with the 1200 lb. bars......snip
I would imagine one's results would have a lot to do with the specific TV suspension, how much heavier the tongue weight is over the spring bar rating, and loading habits.

I originally had 1,200lb bars on my TV/TT combination with a loaded tongue weight shy of 1,200lbs and it worked great. A couple of years ago I upgraded to (2) 6V Deep Cycle batteries and some additional tools in my front pass-thru. The end result was that my loaded tongue weight increased to a tad over 1,300lbs but I experienced a noticeable increase in TV/TT bounce (static weight transfer was fine) with the existing 1,200lb bars. I went to the 1,500lb bars, readjusted the WDH accordingly, and found my towing characteristics improved.

Also, I do have heavy loading habits do to frequent extended traveling, so I tend to carry additional cargo in my TV & TT.

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Do your current bars allow you to setup the tow vehicle properly? If you're getting the right weight transfer to the front of the tow vehicle then they're fine. Have you actually measured the front of the TV to see if it's right?
Haven't measered but the front axle is 100lb less with TT hooked up. The TV looks level and the TT is ever so slightly lower in the front.
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When i purchased my 2015 26rks it came with husky w/d rated up to 1200 lbs.
The w/d bars work well no issues at this time.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:56 PM   #17
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Thanks for the info. Im pretty sure I should at least have 1000 lb bars.
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I have seen this so many times from multiple dealerships. I don't get it - it would be in their best interest to sell a heavier rated hitch for a higher price AND the customer would benefit from having a better towing experience.

My 28BHS had a 800lb Blue Ox installed on it from the dealership. When I bought it used I told him to keep the hitch because I knew how severely underrated it was. I ended up with a 1000lb equalizer.

I put very little faith in RV dealerships and salesmen. They have told me incorrect things on numerous occasions and screwed up repairs/installations a bunch too. The best thing you can do is learn for yourself as much as you can, and coming to a place like this is a fantastic way to do so.

For your trailer I would suggest going with 1200lb bars, if that increment is offered. 1000lb would be OK for light loading but with a GVWR over 8K I would step up a bit more.
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I suggest you go to a CAT Scale and drop the front jack on the scale and see the actual weight. Then get a certified weight ticket from the scale and if the bars are to light take that scale ticket to the dealer and now you have a actual weight which he can not argue with.
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