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Old 08-10-2012, 08:15 AM   #11
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Thanks for the warning, Carson! Glad to hear everyone's okay. Though the water heater in my rig is not exposed like this, I appreciate this thread as a reminder to do a fire drill with my kids and check my detectors.

It's the sort of thing that's critically important but easy to overlook.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:51 AM   #12
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If there can be something good come out of all of this it is that I truly do feel lucky.

I tried to post some pics of it but they didn't seem to work. I'll try again in two separate posts.
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Here is the other pic.

And to comment about my responsibility in this. Yes I would never put anything around my home hot water tank and should have know better in my trailer but at the same time to my uneducated eyes the system in the trailer looked sealed - it was the way Jayco presented it to me - in a storage area with no warning labels. I just trusted that this was safe and went ahead and used it like it was apparently intended to be used. I guess my biggest fault was trusting Jayco that what they made was safe.

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Old 08-10-2012, 09:07 AM   #14
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Sorry to hear of your fire! My last TT had this design in it but the bunk cover was screwed shut so access was not without removing something. I never kept anything in there as the space was small since it backed up to my outside passthough which was under the other half of the bunks.

That is not a safe connection. I cannot believe that there is no junction box at all! To have romex going to exposed wire nuts is just not safe. Every electrical connection should be contained in a junction box. That should not have passed an electrical inspection IMHO.

I am also going to have a firedrill which is a great after thought that should be in the top 10 list of what to do with a new camper!
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:13 AM   #15
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Thanks for the information, glad that no one was hurt. The '05 25E we just traded had the HW htr in an open bay, with storage around it. I would imagine that many more models have the same set-up.

The 'common sense' statement from Jayco would make me angry, too. 'It is not our fault' don't make it.

I'll be looking at my new trailer, no storage near it, but don't know what IS near it, other than the heater.

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Old 08-10-2012, 09:30 AM   #16
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Yes it is a 2003 jayflight 27 bh and hot water heater is in the same place but when i get home from this trip i will be closing it off
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:59 AM   #17
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Last week my 2003 Jayco 27BH started on fire! It was at luch time and smoke started to come up under by daughter's bunk. We ran out opended the storage compartment to discover flames. We yanked everything out and got the fire out quickly. A few things melted but everyone was safe. From what I can tell the electrical connection that runs to the back of the heater shorted out starting the fire. The breaker tripped but not soon enough. In my trailer and from what I can tell others of this model have the hot water tank in the rear storage compartment beneath the lower bunk. In my trailer and others I have heard about there is nothing dividing the tank and the wire at the back from the rest of the storrage area. I called Jayco and said that I felt that this was a safety concern. They had two basic responses. 1. The trailer was built to the safety codes of the time and 2. I should have used common sense and not put anything in this compartment that would come into contact with the back of the heater. Man this last statement pissed me off! By this logic this compratment should not have ANYTHING in it as items will shift in travel. The last I heard Jayco is "investigating". I have heard that some other companies have warning lables saying that you should not store anyting in with the hot water tank - these are designs where the tank is in its own space - there is no such warning on my trailer.

I feel myself to be very very lucky. If we had not been at the trailer it would have burned. If the fire would have happened at night with my daughter sleeping 6" away....

I want to warn everyone with this trialer design that they need to put up a barrier between the tank and the rest of the storrage. Aslo we will never leave our heater on at night again - either on gas or electric. We are also going to shut the breaker off at night - just to make sure. All of this we will be doing on a new - not a Jayco - trailer. My wife rightly refuses to ever let the kids sleep in the old one again.

I have asked Jayco to put out this warning themselves as they would be able to contact all old customers and dealers - they may very well still do this but I don't want to wait. It happened to me, it can happen again. Please be careful and take the needed precautions.


I have owned several RVs over the years and one of the first things that I do after my purchase is to go through the new unit and look for things as you describe. I can't tell you how much I have spent on sheets of barrier material; reversing barriers because the way they were installed would cause more damage than they would prevent; etc., etc. It generally takes me a week to go through the RV "fixin'" obvious design errors. I have always maintained that whoever designs these things has never used one. They just know that they have "X" number of square feet to work in and they take their slide rules and go to work...
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:25 PM   #18
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Thought you might be interested in Jayco's finding of their investigation into my fire. Jayco says the trailer didn't have and didn't need a barrier between the hot water tank and the rest of the storage compartment as there was some sort of plastic juction box hoding the wire onto the back (apparently it burned up in the fire). Newer trailers of this model have a small barrier because now there are copper pipes back there - the new barrier is not intended to protect the connection at the back of the heater because to Jayco it doens't need protecting. Jayco said my case does not warrent a recall of this design nor does Jayco feel that it even warrents them to warn those with this model of the potential danger. Doesn't that just give you the warm fuzzies! I am very glad that my new trailer is not a Jayco.
Have a good rest of the summer.
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Old 08-12-2012, 08:08 PM   #19
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Here is the other pic.

And to comment about my responsibility in this. Yes I would never put anything around my home hot water tank and should have know better in my trailer but at the same time to my uneducated eyes the system in the trailer looked sealed - it was the way Jayco presented it to me - in a storage area with no warning labels. I just trusted that this was safe and went ahead and used it like it was apparently intended to be used. I guess my biggest fault was trusting Jayco that what they made was safe.

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Really makes me wonder how this dangerous trailer made it almost ten years without an incident. What did the previous owners do differently than you did?
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:29 PM   #20
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Checked our Hot water heater today, it is under the sink, and we really don't put a lot there but never the less I built a barrier between the trash can and the hot water heater. Feel a lot better about the hot water heater now Thanx for the info. Glad nobody got hurt.
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