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Old 04-14-2012, 10:06 PM   #1
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WARNING TT and jayco owners! Fire prevention!

Nearly burnt the 2011 314bds down tonight! We were camping and while out bike riding came back and notice all the lights were dim. Checked fuse panel and shore panel, nothing. Went back to TT fuse panel and checked fuses. Noticed when I pushed on the 12.5 amp auto reset fuse the lights and A/C came back on. They shortly went dim again (converting to battery power). Pushed in again and all came on. I should know better that when a fuse is acting up, there is a reason. A few minutes later I see smoke coming out of the fuse panel. I flip all the breakers off and ran outside to disconnect shore power. I removed the entire panel cover to investigate and discovered the problem.
At the top of the panel the factory has ran 3 wires along right along the converter board over to the breakers. Well the black (hot) wire was in contact with the shore power ground lug! The lug was cooked and the black wire coating burnt through.
I was able to tape the black wire up and away from the ground lug and continue operations, but will have to take the TT in for inspection of the converter this week.
I'll post a pic when I get home, but just for good measure I would highly recommend disconnecting all power sources (battery included), remove your panel cover entirely and see if you have some wires sitting on the ground lug before your next trip. If so, take to a dealer for a fix to keep them away from the lug.
Happy camping! And if the post is confusing, the pic I'll post tomorrow will make more sense.

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Old 04-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #2
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Wow , great catch on the electrical short, and glad you caught it when you did. It sounds like a problem that was on it's way of becoming a major problem in short order.



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Old 04-14-2012, 10:46 PM   #3
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Yes - please post a pic! Does it look like something that happened during install or do you think it rubbed over time?
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Great catch and thanks for sharing. I'd love to see the pics when you can post them.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:40 PM   #5
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That's a close call. Makes me want to check mine also
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:40 AM   #6
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I think this warrants a report to Jayco. Please do so in case they have an issue w/ this part of their mfg. process, if you've not done so already.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:44 AM   #7
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Glad to hear you caught the problem before disaster struck.

Funny you should post this. I took delivery of a new SL 5th wheel about a month ago and about a week later I was checking various items on the unit and after taking off the electrical panel cover the same wire routing you describe caught my attention as a potential issue. Before I take the unit on our first trip I will for sure take some corrective action.

Not to be a s%#% disturber but lives could be at stake here and if something can be done to prevent this I believe it should. Pictures to Jayco at minimum should be in order, I'm sure they would like to know.

Thanks for posting this warning.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:49 AM   #8
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That's a little too close for comfort...never should have happened. Good save! Glad you caught it before anything really bad happened.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:21 PM   #9
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Here is a wide view of the panel we have. You can see where I have taped the wires up and out of the way.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:28 PM   #10
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The culprit!

Here is the close up of what happened. Notice the ground lug is burnt and you can't appreciate in the picture but it burnt about half the depth of the lug. The black wire above (being held by the tape) was the wire that came in contact with the lug, melted the sheathing and was causing a short and possibly impending fire. I checked out everything on the rig and all seems to be operating correctly, but I want to take it in and have the panel tested/replaced. My wiring setup had the white and green wires following the same path, so all three of those wires are a threat. I am reporting this to Jayco as I am sure their panels are outsourced and hopefully Jayco will address/inspect the issue.
It was a scare, that's for sure. Had our three little ones with us and if a fire would've broken out in the night, it would have been between us and the bunkhouse to the rear. Everyone check your panels!! It is a simple one philips screw removal process.
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