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Old 02-08-2012, 01:22 AM   #1
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Which trailer to buy. 28bhs or 29Qbh

Hello all.

I know this question was asked before on another thread, but I thought I would ask it again to get some fresh perspective and opinions as it pertains to my situation. We are planning on ordering a unit this week so all suggestions and tips are welcome.

I have a 2010 F150 with tow package rated to 9600lb max with a GCVW of 15500. The trailers we are looking at are the Jay Flight 28BHS and the 29Qbh. The 28 has a dry weight of 5500 while the 29Qbh has a dry weight of 6700. We realy want the 29qbhs as we feel it will fill our needs until the kids grow up and move out. 12-14 years away... hopefully. Might even have it paid off by then... wink wink. The 28bhs is a great trailer and would do the job nicely. If they only swaped the dinette with the couch and made the slide another foot or two further with a u shape dinette. Perfect, but thats my opinion.

Seeing as I am new to TT I can't see us doing any major long haul trips up and down the mountians this year but instead doing many 3-5 nighters only a 2-4 hour drive from home along mostly flat roads to get a feel for it.

Is it hard to find sites to fit these size trailers?

thanks for any help.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:10 AM   #2
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I also looked into both the 28BHS and the 29QBH when trailer shopping. The 28BHS and its tongue weight combined with occupants and stuff in the truck pretty much maxes out the suspension and payload of the truck in my signature. I know the newer trucks have increased tow ratings and in some cases larger payloads. Perhaps one of our towing guys can break down the numbers. As for finding sites, I have not yet had a problem with the 31' 28BHs in the places I have been.


FLOORPLAN 29QBH
Weights
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 6,745
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 880
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 9,250
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 2,505
Measurements
Exterior Length 33' "
Exterior Height w/ AC 133"
Interior Height 81"
Tank Capacities
Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 86
Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.5
Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.5
Other



FLOORPLAN 28BHS
Weights
Unloaded Vehicle Weight (lbs) 5,215
Dry Hitch Weight (lbs) 685
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs) 7,500
Cargo Carrying Capacity (lbs) 2,285
Measurements
Exterior Length 30' 6"
Exterior Height w/ AC 127"
Interior Height 81"
Tank Capacities
Fresh Water Capacity (gals) includes water heater 90
Gray Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.5
Black Waste Water Capacity (gals) 32.5
Other
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:52 AM   #3
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Crewmaniacs,

Welcome to the Jayco forums

Not sure which 29QBH thread you are referencing, but thought it might be this one: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...t=29QBH&page=3, which I offered an example of a 29QBH under loaded weight conditions.

The F150 with a published tow rating of 9,600lb is robust, but reference the following thread to confirm your "actual" tow rating, it may help in putting some of the "loaded" weights in perspective: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3866

I don't know what the cargo capacity of your particular model F-150 is, but with most 1/2 tons (not all) the published cargo capacity is usually the first weight limit that is exceeded when considering the "loaded tongue weights" of the heavier TT's (loaded tongue weight is subtracted from the TV's cargo capacity)...., something worth looking into.

I agree with Crabman, the TT lengths in question shouldn't be an issue in most CG's.

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Old 02-08-2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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Hard to find sites?

I camp primarily in the Lakes Region / White Mountains of NH and haven't found limitations. I think most campgrounds can accomodate the TT's you're considering. When making a reservation they always ask what size trailer you have anyway, so it's not like you'd show up and not fit into the site they've reserved for you. Good luck with whatever you choose!
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #5
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i like the 29 qbh but i just picked up a used 2010 29bhs last weekend that was in my price range pretty much new couldnt really justify the extra money for the 29qbh even tho i have a 1 ton i agree with the others the biggest thing is the tongue weight on a half ton my buddy was towing his trailer with f150 it pulled it but he ended up trading it for an f350 was just hard to pull the big trailer with a half ton seemed like it was struggling u get a pretty big wind load also with a camper on top of the extra weight
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Thanks for all your input.

Where exactly do you find your max load tongue weight for your TV. I have looked on the ford website and could not find it, but I may have missed it. I do believe my max load wt. for my truck might be around 7500lbs but I don't know what my curb wt is. My front axels can handle 3750lbs while the rear can handle 3850lbs according to the sticker on my door. So adding them together I would get my payload ? 7600Lbs . My guess is after a loaded truck ( kids/wife/gear etc ) and then add a 880Lb hitch wt ( 29Qbh). I'm either realy close or at my max, depending on how much my truck weighs. Does this sound right?

Any tips on purchasing a unit? Anyone know much about the new Whitehawks?

Thanks again for everyones input.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:06 PM   #7
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To find the payload you subtract the curbweight from the GVWR of the truck. For example if your truck weighs 5,000 and your GVWR is 6500 your payload would be 1500lbs.

Tips for buying:

https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=2360

https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=2359


The Whitehawks are so new, I do not think anyone here has one yet. But the Jayfeather line may have some large floorplans that interest you.
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There are many experts around here that will weight in. They seem to know thier stuff.

Here is what I know the max tounge load issue is really 2 things to consder.

1) What is your receiver weight rating...both weight carrying and weight distribution.

2) What ever tounge weight you place on the hitch counts against your payload capacity. For instance is you have a 900lb tounge weight and 1500lb payload capacity just hitching up only leaves 600 lbs for passengers, gear etc before you are over loaded.
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snip........ Where exactly do you find your max load tongue weight for your TV ......snip
If you want to take all the guess work out of it, take your loaded TV (w/family, cargo & fuel) to your local CAT scale. Weigh your TV, and the CAT scale weight certificate will provide you with your axle weights and the gross weight of your TV. Subtract the gross weight from your TV's specified GVWR (sticker on door), the remaining weight is what you have available for a TT's loaded tongue weight.

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Spent some time in each unit and see which one you will be the most comfortable in. Sometimes an extra foot or two can make a lot of difference.
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