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Old 04-29-2014, 08:29 AM   #11
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Just got back from our first trip with our White Hawk. Wanted to post when I saw your post but couldn't because we had no cell service where we were at. Mostly wanted to post because I saw your weights and they are nearly identical to ours. This was the first chance to weigh the TV and TT loaded: front 3540, rear 3700, trailer 5880.

Also wanted to comment on the bouncing problem you experienced. I installed load E tires on my truck in response to suggestions on the forum and was considering the air bags or extra leaf springs if needed, but now after our first trip I don't think they are needed. I ran 50lbs of air in the tires and had almost no bouncing, I say almost because if you hit a big enough bump anything is going to bounce a little. I also installed the tires because of tread wear concerns and I must say after our trip in the hills of TN that turned out to be a good decision. Going up some of the back roads on switchbacks you could literally hear the tires grinding on the asphalt.

What type of WDH are you using?

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Old 04-29-2014, 11:48 AM   #12
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Yeah, we get some bounce with our f150 fx4 as well. Planning to install some airbags at some point. To your point about the ecobeast, it's awesome for towing. I'm at Hocking hills in Ohio and the hills are insane getting here. The ecobeast wasn't even challenged. I was accelerating up the hills with the camper! When got with the group I was camping with everyone was talking about the hills and how they were to the floor and still loosing speed. This is one hell of an engine that Ford has come up with.
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For the Ecoboost, just be careful not to try and exceed its capacity, a guy I know blew his engine, he was impressed at how well it towed in the hills, so he kept the pedal down and was aiming to hold his speed no matter what the hill... the Ecoboost didn't like that very much!!!!
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:58 AM   #14
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For those who have installed Roadmasters or airbags...


How does it affect your ride when NOT towing?
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:18 PM   #15
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We had RAS when we had the F150 Ecoboost. The ride quality was about the same, but I found that the cornering was much better empty. I gained about 3/4" in the rake.

The best part was that it nearly eliminated the shudder when accelerating from a dead stop. Some say it was caused by Axle Wrap, however I've heard other reasons as well. Regardless I was very happy with the Roadmaster Active Suspension.

As FYI I used the black disc for separation.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:55 PM   #16
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We had RAS when we had the F150 Ecoboost. The ride quality was about the same, but I found that the cornering was much better empty. I gained about 3/4" in the rake.

The best part was that it nearly eliminated the shudder when accelerating from a dead stop. Some say it was caused by Axle Wrap, however I've heard other reasons as well. Regardless I was very happy with the Roadmaster Active Suspension.

As FYI I used the black disc for separation.
+1 on all of it. I couldn't have said it better myself, and that's just about how my experience went!
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For the Ecoboost, just be careful not to try and exceed its capacity, a guy I know blew his engine, he was impressed at how well it towed in the hills, so he kept the pedal down and was aiming to hold his speed no matter what the hill... the Ecoboost didn't like that very much!!!!

I know a guy who has a ecoboost in his work truck. He has 186,000 miles on it without any issues yet. I guess it's all about how you use them and take care of them. Luck plays a big part as well I'm sure. I've only had the chance to tow with my ecoboost for about 75 miles....but so far I'm impressed. It tows my new 6,000 lbs trailer better than my 6.0 Liter GM V8 towed my old 4,300 lbs trailer. I still like the responsiveness of a V8 over the V6 ecoboost. The ecoboost sorta reminds me of a diesel engine. Slow on throttle response, big on towing torque.
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:52 PM   #18
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As for the TV, the F150 has plenty of power and capacity to pull the TT but the rear suspension is way to bouncy. We had a lot of porpoising. I checked the weight at a closed road side weigh station and the weight is pretty well distributed according to the scale 3550 Front / 3750 Rear / 5850 Trailer.
Just out of curiosity, what did you have in your truck when you had it weighed? Passengers (number, kids/adults). Gear in the bed? Gas tank full / empty?

You are at a TV GVW of 7300 lbs (about 400 less than max on a Max Tow). What is your Rear GAWR?

I'm just curious because if you are weighing in with the numbers you have, I must have been way over with my 33bhbs and my old F150.
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Just out of curiosity, what did you have in your truck when you had it weighed? Passengers (number, kids/adults). Gear in the bed? Gas tank full / empty?

You are at a TV GVW of 7300 lbs (about 400 less than max on a Max Tow). What is your Rear GAWR?

I'm just curious because if you are weighing in with the numbers you have, I must have been way over with my 33bhbs and my old F150.
We didn't have anything in the bed of the truck. Including myself we had 4 passengers all of which are adult sized. The tank was half full.

The rear GAWR is 4050 from the door sticker and the GVWR is 7650.

I would bet the 33bhbs would be over weight for the F150.
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So far I am starting to lean towards the RAS to help with the rear end if after getting the weight distribution hitch fine tuned doesn't help. We haven't had a chance yet to go to a Cat scale to really get things set up well. We don't have one close so I have to plan a half day trip to do that. What I used before was a roadside weigh station that was closed and they left the scale on.

BTW... The hitch that I have is a basic Husky weight distribution hitch.


Additionally, I will be changing the tires to E Rated BFG All Terrain K/Os regardless of the set up.
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