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Old 05-31-2020, 09:24 AM   #1
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Why are Soft Start AC not an option

Hi all.

Let me start with the simple and straight forward academic question. Then I may need some help.

"Why don't RV Manufacturers (Jayco) offer Soft Start as an option or as a standard?"
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"Why don't RV Manufacturers (Jayco) offer Soft Start as an option or as a standard?"
I've never seen a OEM a/c unit that offers Soft Start, it's always been an after market modification.
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Old 05-31-2020, 09:54 AM   #3
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I believe the new Furrion units have the soft start built in...
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I've never seen a OEM a/c unit that offers Soft Start, it's always been an after market modification.
"Why?"

That's the question.
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"Why?"

That's the question.
Probably not enough demand. Never installed a Soft Start in any a/c over a 43 yr period of RV ownership. Never needed it, as probably is the case with most RV owners.
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Old 05-31-2020, 12:19 PM   #6
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It would be an unnecessary expense for most rv’ers.

My buddy just bought a Alliance fifth wheel. It has 3 - 13.5 btu units. It must have a power management system or all hard start equipped.
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Old 05-31-2020, 03:26 PM   #7
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Probably not enough demand. Never installed a Soft Start in any a/c over a 43 yr period of RV ownership. Never needed it, as probably is the case with most RV owners.
The "no demand" would be an obvious possibility.

I wonder what % of RV owners use a Gas generator?
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I've wondered this myself, especially since Airxcel makes a Coleman Mach with soft start now.
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Lots that dry camp, many have to either run two generators in parallel or get a larger one. But yes there are OEM RV air conditioners with soft start so a smaller generator can start it. And yes there are are many using generators.
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What I like about the SoftStart is that the AC doesn't make all that loud zoom noise on start up. It starts very quietly now and I run it with one Honda i2000 inverter generator. I would have paid for this addition when buying. It is even better now when plugged into shore power because it starts so quiet.
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What I like about the SoftStart is that the AC doesn't make all that loud zoom noise on start up. It starts very quietly now and I run it with one Honda i2000 inverter generator. I would have paid for this addition when buying. It is even better now when plugged into shore power because it starts so quiet.

This is very true. We have two ACís. One with soft start and one without. The bedroom AC doesnít have it, and when that compressor kicks in during the middle of the night itíll wake me sometime. I need to order a second one and get that installed.
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I went to Coleman's web site. In a quick search, they show they do offer a Mach 10 NDQ that comes as a soft start. Is it in Jayco's lineup?

https://www.airxcel.com/rv/coleman-m...ftstart-series
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It would and will save on wear and tear on the a/c unit, thus likely fewer problems.
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People don't know how much a soft start can help them. Most R/Vs that run off of a 30AMP service can get by fine with a 2200W quiet generator. Go over to POP UP PORTAL and look around. A lot of those guys run to small generators that interface for when they need A/C and one small generator in the winter to run heater fan keep the lights on. Especially while boon docking. which they probably do because of the size of the unit.
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..."Why don't RV Manufacturers (Jayco) offer Soft Start as an option or as a standard?"
How many potential buyers ask "Does the AC have soft-start?" Probably close to zero.
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How many potential buyers ask "Does the AC have soft-start?" Probably close to zero.
You are correct. Most people don't know about the SoftStart so they wouldn't know to ask. If a good salesman, or should I say salesperson, were to demonstrate how good they work vs not having one I think they would make the sale.
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How many potential buyers ask "Does the AC have soft-start?" Probably close to zero.
Doesn't matter if they ask, since they are not a factory option (generally).

You think that's a good reason to not offer a product people might not know about, but would pay a premium for if they were educated?

Could be I suppose.

For what it is worth, when I bought my first trailer I did not know what a soft start was. However, after being educated, if I had the option to have one factory installed for $250 I would have done it in a heart beat.

These items improve the performance of AC units in TT environments. I stand by y position that its surprising MFGs aren't jumping on the chance to sell them to us.
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Mfg's know less than we do. If I were a MFG I would be investing money in building new camp grounds. They are riding a huge sales wave right now but, when the new John Q public realizes they can't use their new $20,000.00 plus toy they will dump them and the market will be worse than before covid. If people could boon dock easier and relieve the reservation stress Hide and watch! The x's sisters X husband built 3 golf R/v resorts on the east coast last year. He rides in a 1.2 million dollar coach. I did not ask mf nephew how much a night. I am sure it is one of those deals that if you have to ask you can't afford it anyway.
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