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Old 10-24-2015, 07:37 PM   #1
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x23b Condensation Issues

Hi all. We are seriously considering purchasing a new 2015/2016 jayco x23b. Our reservation is with what I have heard of the condensation/moisture problems with them in the bunks. My daughters grandma has a x23b and says they get wet beds! Please help! What are your experiences? I have read that opening a bunk end window resolves the condensation. We love the floor plan but I do not want to spend all that money to be wet and unhappy!
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:00 PM   #2
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We have a 2014 and are also suspect to the same condensation issues when the temperature is cold outside and the heater is on. One remedy that seems to work is to crack open the windows slightly and run the bathroom vent. This is an issue with most canvas trailers.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:01 PM   #3
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Open a window, turn on vent fan, use a dehumidifier.. Most rv's will experience Condensation, especially if it's colder outside. Just need to find a way to minimize it that works for your setup.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:18 PM   #4
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I should have stated when it rains its a problem.
For example, if you tough the roof of the bunk end water comes in.
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I installed a MaxxAir cover on the bathroom vent and left the vent open 100% of the time. We did not have any condensation probs. I expect the humidity has a big impact on this but as I said, we had no probs.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:25 PM   #6
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So, to be more specific, as I'm new to this...I am looking for people that own an expandable to give me some input as to what they know/issues, etc...
When it is a hard rain in my mother in laws, the canvas doesnt leak per say, however if you touch the ceiling on the bunk end it will leak water in-condensation build up?
I had a pop up and never had this issue...
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:26 PM   #7
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I did exactly that and had the same results. We're upgrading to a JayFlight and will install one on there too.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:28 PM   #8
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are you replying to the guy that put the max vent on?
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Ventilation is the key, but you should avoid touching the DuraTek during rainy weather, or water can infiltrate. I would suggest that you consider spraying on some vinyl waterproofing if water infiltration increases over time.


Our pup took us through some pretty serious weather over the years, but after 3 days of straight rain on one trip in '14 we could actually feel the water atomising off the material at times; like sleeping with a mister aimed at your face. But even with that, we wold never give up sleeping under canvas (well vinyl).


Note that I don't think this is a particular defect or issue of DuraTek; most pup and hybrid owners I know speak of the same issues.
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We never have condensation issues any more. We go out in all kinds of weathet; 20 degree, rain storms, etc. The issue was fixed by cracking open at least one side bunk window, in each bunk end a couple inches. The bathroom vent is also cracked open, at minimum of 1/2 inch. We to have a max air vent cover.

We one had moisture under the matress, not sure why, but it was early on.

Don't worry about touching the canvas bunk walls during rain, it will not leak. I am very tall and my feet seem to be touching the canvas by morning, they have never been wet, nor my bedding.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:31 PM   #11
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We never have condensation issues any more. We go out in all kinds of weathet; 20 degree, rain storms, etc. The issue was fixed by cracking open at least one side bunk window, in each bunk end a couple inches. The bathroom vent is also cracked open, at minimum of 1/2 inch. We to have a max air vent cover.

We one had moisture under the matress, not sure why, but it was early on.

Don't worry about touching the canvas bunk walls during rain, it will not leak. I am very tall and my feet seem to be touching the canvas by morning, they have never been wet, nor my bedding.
X2 and get the " Pop Up Gizmos" as they help a lot and I also have a dehumidifier that I use in cold weather.
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:51 AM   #12
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Yup Pop-up Gizmos are what you want. We used them on our 2007 232 with all 3 fold outs. They work very well to keep the tent ends clean too.
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Jagiven reminds me of something. The inside flaps on many of the hyrids and pups are not Duratek, they are a canvas material. Different waterproofing is required for the material.

And I also agree that the side panels don't leak when touched as the water sheds pretty well. At 6'3" I am also a tight fit in the bunks and tend to touch the sides, but touching the roof where the water takes longer to shed can be a different experience altogether.

In the kind of weather I'm talking about, you can't leave a vent open or a bunk side panel, although with the awning out you can generally open a window on that side.
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As many said, leave a flap open a little or another window.

Our X20E is our second hybrid. We always left a window open a crack in our previous hybrid (2003 Kiwi 17a) and rarely had condensation. We didn't do this when we got the X20E and got lots of condensation! We now leave the small windows over the stove open about an inch and have no more condensation issues.

We have never used "popup gizmos" or a dehumidifier.
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I also highly recommend Popup Gizmo's or the emergency space blankets that can be purchased thru Cabelas. I just traded in my 2003 kiwi 23b, and the bunk end canvas looked as good as the day I purchased the camper. They work great both in the summer, to reflect the sun, as well as in the cooler weather to help insulate and eliminate condensation. I've also heard of people putting reflectix under their mattresses as an additional insulating layer.
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Found this thread after sleeping in a rain forest this past week while snow camping/hunting. Condensation frozen by day, dripping while warm by night. Other than the ventilation issues mentioned, I've found one other solution. If you cover a tent with a tarp roof while snow camping, it helps condensation a ton. These PUP covers from PopupGizmos look similar, only precut to trailer sizes:
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I run a JayFeather 19H and am planning to get a set of covers - better fit than mere tarps, and less tacky.
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Had Colman pup and used the gizmos all the time (think there still in the garage) they work great get the high wind one's we have the condensation problem from underneath also and used the reflex material from the home stores works great also
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Ice's DW... Unzip the corner of each bunk window for nightly condensation and run the fan. I only had one trip with noticeable condensation on the top of the bunk canvas. It was a beach site with unusual fog. We've camped in every weather save snow in our 23b. Run the bathroom fan and crack windows. When we are packing up, I zip down a few Windows and prop the mattresses up to dry and air out. That's where you will have moisture issues. I let them dry out for at least an hour as I'm cleaning and packing everything else up or fixing breakfast. Cookin in the rig, especially pasta or boiling will contribute to extra moisture too. Use your stove fan! Crack windows...did I say crack or unzip windows?
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I bring the mattresses in the house for the winter.
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