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Old 08-21-2015, 08:54 AM   #11
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I already did all that calculation including my family weight, etc... The X5 have a payload close to the GMC Sierra 5.3 that someone else shared the numbers on another post...
Even with the 625lbs hitch weight and all cargo I'm still below the limit.... Close but below.
In fact, I'm going through all this trouble just to to try to keep the numbers under the stated limits....
In the UK the X5 handles 7700 lbs and here in the USA I know at least one guy that used to town a 8300lbs 30 Airstream with a 1000 lbs hitch weight with no problems so I should be fine with that, just would like to be by the book....
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I think it would be much safer to overload your TV a bit than to repack your trailer to reduce the tongue weight down to 10%.
Travel trailers like a heavy tongue. 12-13% of trailer weight at least or more. Too light on the tongue and you could induce uncontrollably sway.
If you need to tow this trailer with your X5 I would lean toward maxing out your payload or even exceeding it before loading for 10% tongue weight.
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:12 AM   #14
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Thanks Subaru297,
Wife appreciate that !!!
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To some, the most important rating to stay under is the rear axle rating.

Does your axle ratings add up to a fair amount more than the gcwr?
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Yes, front rear and total will be under limit up to 770 lbs...
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Being over the max tongue weight of your vehicle reduces cornering capabilities and reduces braking capability. While the guy with the 30' Airstream and 400 pounds over tongue weight said it was fine, he was probably very lucky he wasn't in an emergency situation where his vehicle wasn't able to perform as it should.
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Old 08-21-2015, 03:04 PM   #18
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Hi SilverEscape,
I'm not sure I fully understand your reasoning.

Cornering:
I'm not sure cornering is something to be taking a look at after you hook a 5000 lbs trailer @ your car, unless I didn't understood what you mean with cornering.

Brakes:
The trailer have brakes so in fact the additional load that goes to the TV brakes are the loads you allow adjusting your braking sensitivity, am I wrong?

Weight limits:
In the case of the Airstream guy he probably was over not only on the tongue weight but also on GVWR....
In my case, the tongue weight will be above but both the max. towing weight and the maximum weight of the TV (GVWR) don't....
So I don't think the brakes or handling of the vehicle would be off of the expected by the designer of the vehicle ....
I have the design maximum weights for each axle and could/will be adjusting the WD to be within the limits....

Am I wrong on the reasoning?

Country Mouse, have you measured your rig? Are you above the limits of your SUV?

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Were you ever able to get an accurate tongue weight on the 2016 x254? I'm in a similar boat as you with a tongue limit of 720...but want to be down around 600 if possible!
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Hi SilverEscape,
I'm not sure I fully understand your reasoning.

Cornering:
I'm not sure cornering is something to be taking a look at after you hook a 5000 lbs trailer @ your car, unless I didn't understood what you mean with cornering.

Brakes:
The trailer have brakes so in fact the additional load that goes to the TV brakes are the loads you allow adjusting your braking sensitivity, am I wrong?

Weight limits:
In the case of the Airstream guy he probably was over not only on the tongue weight but also on GVWR....
In my case, the tongue weight will be above but both the max. towing weight and the maximum weight of the TV (GVWR) don't....
So I don't think the brakes or handling of the vehicle would be off of the expected by the designer of the vehicle ....
I have the design maximum weights for each axle and could/will be adjusting the WD to be within the limits....

Am I wrong on the reasoning?

Country Mouse, have you measured your rig? Are you above the limits of your SUV?

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Were you ever able to get an accurate tongue weight on the 2016 x254? I'm in a similar boat as you with a tongue limit of 720...but want to be down around 600 if possible!
Wow, never saw your question to me. We ended up upgrading our TV from a Ford Expedition to a Ford Excursion so we are not above our limits.

I do not know how you would be able to keep your tongue weight at 600#. Factor in 100# for the weight distribution hitch and 100# for batteries and you quickly use up your available tongue weight.

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