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Old 07-05-2015, 11:39 AM   #11
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In the 30 years or so we've been camping in SE Arizona (mostly), we've seen evidence of bears, but no actual bears - though a couple of years ago I thought I caught a glimpse of one lumbering up a hill, away from the trail we were hiking. The worst thing we've encountered is a rabid bat. We assume it was rabid because it was out in daylight, attempting to come into the tent-trailer, holding onto the screen and flapping its wings. It was alarming only because one of our party was still out collecting firewood, and when we hollered at him, he thought we were kidding. (Nobody was touched/bitten.)

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Old 07-05-2015, 12:20 PM   #12
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Firearms are one of those issues people feel strongly about, be it pro or con. For me, it's about being able to protect my family. That is MY job. Not the park ranger, police, etc. Besides, by the time they arrive, it's generally too late to be of any help anyway. You can say you've been camping for X number of years, and never seen any threats. But the day real danger sticks it's head under your tent flap, you're gonna wish you had more than a pointy stick, etc...You might get lucky, or you might be a sad story on the evening news. I will likely not go to places that deny me the right to protect my family.


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Old 07-05-2015, 01:05 PM   #13
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Over the past 76 years, I have observed several news stories of bears tearing into tents, ect., and pulling kids out. One I remember well occurred is southern Utah, several years ago. Bear rip into a tent full of family, and pulled a four year old boy from the tent, and started dragging it away. Family gave chase and the bear let the child go. Be aware that humans, large or small , can attract certain bears.
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Old 07-05-2015, 03:53 PM   #14
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Scary. Wonder if they've ever cooked inside that trailer. The tenting will hold smells indefinitely, that while a human may not realize they are there, smell like a very tasty meal to a bear.

When we got our PUP, we stopped camping in bear country as with little kids, we did end up needing to cook inside it occasionally. And I wanted snacks close by and not have to go out to the TV to grab a toddler a late night snack in the rain.

Missed camping in all my favourite places for 10 years due to that PUP. (But gained other conveniences and found some other nice lakes)
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Old 07-06-2015, 09:39 AM   #15
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Not blaming the children but kids always seem to take food places they should not. Maybe this trip none but how about previous trips? Bears have really sensitive noses and will investigate anything that has an odor even the smell from soap used to take a bath. Glad all are OK.
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Old 07-06-2015, 10:04 AM   #16
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I think there is more to this story than the press is reporting. No interviews with park rangers? No interview or comment from bear experts? When bears do this sort of thing, there is a reason for it.

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