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Old 06-03-2014, 10:57 AM   #11
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mcfarmall is much better versed on this than I am, but I will say that mine worked with no power source. Matter of fact, there was no electrical hook up (12V or 120) on my old one at all.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:26 PM   #12
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When a thermocouple bulb is heated it creates current. There is no outside power source required. See attached diagram.
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well I didn't have time to do a set-up check the last few days, so will have to wait and see if our showers on Saturday will be cold or hot.
I did a youtube search and found a few videos and some were good and had some pointers. In one of the videos for the Unitrol gas valve, the user stated that on his water heater that he would have to hold the Red Reset button sometimes for 30 seconds before introducing the flame to light the pilot. So maybe because I just filled and have air in the lines, I just need to hold it longer. But I will light my stove inside prior first to see if that helps.
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we had hot showers this weekend!

Mystery Solved:

Since I had disconnected the LP line to have the tank filled, air gets into the line. The suggestion to light the inside stove first may have helped to bleed out some of the air. But also adding, the directions state to hold the red reset button down while lighting the pilot. I guess a bit misleading as I thought it would light within a few seconds just like any other LP unit. It took 25-30 seconds holding down the red reset button while holding a flame between the pilot tip and thermocouple tip before the pilot would light for this first time....the 2nd time using the water heater on the next day, the pilot lit in 3 seconds, much faster.
So I guess there was air in the line and I was just not holding flame and reset button long enough.

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Just think how long you'd have to hold that button down if you had to bleed all the air out of the main line from the tank to the water heater. The instructions aren't misleading, they just assume that the user has an adequate supply of LP at the gas valve inlet.

You can now consider yourself an experienced water heater troubleshooter!! Next spring when you get it out of storage you'll know what to do and expect.

Glad we could help.
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Just think how long you'd have to hold that button down if you had to bleed all the air out of the main line from the tank to the water heater. The instructions aren't misleading, they just assume that the user has an adequate supply of LP at the gas valve inlet.

You can now consider yourself an experienced water heater troubleshooter!! Next spring when you get it out of storage you'll know what to do and expect.

Glad we could help.
Right.

Not misleading per say, maybe a bit vague(?). The directions state to hold down red reset for 5 seconds and light the pilot is the part that you are saying they assume you have LP in the line and are ready "to go".
Maybe a secondary note should follow for us s
"if lighting pilot for the first time after tank disconnect/fill or a long period of non use, it may take a longer period of time than 5 seconds to light the pilot" "hold red reset button for up to 30 seconds".......something like that.
It just would have been that easy. I was doing everything right, just not long enough with the button and flame. Maybe that little fear in me that when you open up a propane line and wait 20 seconds before lighting and you get that big flare up and singe the hair off your knuckles is what was my problem.
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Maybe that little fear in me that when you open up a propane line and wait 20 seconds before lighting and you get that big flare up and singe the hair off your knuckles is what was my problem.
To avoid a flare up, you should apply an ignition source at the pilot assembly the entire time you are holding the button down whether its for 5 seconds or 5 minutes. This applies to ANY gas fueled appliance...stove, furnace, water heater, grill...anything. My personal favorite ignition source is my trigger start propane torch that I always have by my side...I use it so much I almost need a holster on my belt for it! You can lock it "ON" and hold it by the pilot assembly till the cows come home if necessary and the wind will never blow it out.

Something to ask for with Father's day approaching is the Bernz-O-Matic TS4000. One handed operation all metal construction and has a trigger lock.
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Old 09-04-2014, 03:11 PM   #18
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Great thread!

I have the exact set up and was pissed I couldn't get the pilot lit. I'll fire up the stove next time and I'll bet it works.

New here, and very happy to find this place! This is the second issue I've had help with.

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Every year it is a refresher course for me whenever I try and get the heater running. All the input from everyone helped me as well. Thank you.
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