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imjustdave 06-02-2014 10:58 PM

help which one to buy Jayco, Arctic Fox or Grand Design
 
DW and I have looked at the following Arctic Fox, Grand Design and of course Jayco. I have to admit I kind of posted this Q before but the title really sucked.. So sorry if anyone feels this a bad re-post...

Wife and I currently own a 07 30.5BHS and we are in need of a different floor plan, kid is all grown up now and the bunk room is now just a BIG closet LOL

So we have been looking at Jayco, Grand Design, and Arctic Fox. I have to say I like my current Jayco and would buy another but I have to admit I really love the hydraulic auto leveling system, its fast easy and fairly stable. that is on the Grand, and even the SF has the electric version. ... But not even an option on the Jayco? Looks to be on the 2015 now for now:)
The other 2 brands have larger hot water heaters
The day night shades don't really block day like I would think they should.

Anyone know why Jayco hasn't started using hydraulic systems yet? jacks, slides ETC?
Have the slide issues with the Schwintek system be resolved yet?

Frustrated shopper right now need help.
Anyone have things I should look at in comparison to the other brands.... we almost have too many options "dealers" locally.

glsimms 06-02-2014 11:04 PM

Not familiar with the other 2 brands you list, but what is their warranty? Jaycos' 2 year warranty is hard to beat.

jenoble99 06-03-2014 07:50 PM

Another thing to consider is dealer support/network. I'm not sure what kind of dealer network those other brands have, but I have never seen a dealer for either of them. Good luck with your search.

clubhouse 06-03-2014 09:45 PM

I am very happy with my JayFlight, both of them in fact. Jayco has been able to provide what I need at this time for a decent value and quality level.

That said, I think Northwood makes a very high quality travel trailer and every Arctic Fox owner I've been around raves about their units. Further every AF I have stepped into seems really solid & well built. There is the ability to get a "true four season" trailer form them too should you need that.

The downside to AF is they are heavy, very heavy, no light weight options with Northwood. Also they aren't really family (kid) friendly TT, they design much more with the couple in mind not the family. Not going to find any large bunkhouses which was important to me, but doesn't seem to be an issue for you. So if you have the TV, and they have a floor plan that works I wouldn't be concerned.

Depending on what line of Jayco you are comparing to, both others could be quite a bit more expensive.

I don't have any experience or exposure to "grand design" so I can't comment.

Living in WA and knowing they are built quite closeby in OR, I would feel very comfortable with both dealer and factory support.

Bobx2 06-04-2014 08:30 AM

There is one other brand that I would throw into the mix to look at, but maybe you've looked at all of them and have narrowed down your search to just these three.
I know one of the things Jayco likes to use for a selling point is their 2 year warranty. To me, that is NOT a selling point, rather a sales pitch. Think about it. Almost anything in your rv that is most likely to give your problems is covered by the manufactures warranty, not Jayco. All appliances, tires, frames and even the rubber roofs have their own warranties. The manufactures warranties are typically 2-5 years, and longer on the roofs. The extra year of Jayco warranty, to me, didn't justify the extra $8,000 they wanted for their rv. I'm not bad mouthing Jayco, I've owned two different Jayco TT's, and really liked them. I just don't care for how they tout their "superior" warranty.

Jagiven 06-04-2014 09:29 AM

I have a coworker that has had a few campers with both electric and hydraulic levelers and slide outs drives. He has told me he never wants another unit with hydraulics again. He had numerous issues with hydraulics leaking, blowouts, and so forth. He said they are a mess to deal with and repair. That is his two cents.

Parcany 06-04-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobx2 (Post 204254)
There is one other brand that I would throw into the mix to look at, but maybe you've looked at all of them and have narrowed down your search to just these three.
I know one of the things Jayco likes to use for a selling point is their 2 year warranty. To me, that is NOT a selling point, rather a sales pitch. Think about it. Almost anything in your rv that is most likely to give your problems is covered by the manufactures warranty, not Jayco. All appliances, tires, frames and even the rubber roofs have their own warranties. The manufactures warranties are typically 2-5 years, and longer on the roofs. The extra year of Jayco warranty, to me, didn't justify the extra $8,000 they wanted for their rv. I'm not bad mouthing Jayco, I've owned two different Jayco TT's, and really liked them. I just don't care for how they tout their "superior" warranty.

Not to start a war, but we owned a Heartland 29rls, with a 1year warranty, After that year was up I started having big problems. The screws holding the floor to the slide were backing out. Because of the screws backing out it ripped the carpet. Also when I had the wheel bearings repacked they found from the factory that one bearing, the roller was gone[ was never there from the factory] and another bearing was bluing from being to hot. On the bearings I did what I was told to do from the service Manager. On the screws I got a hold of Jim Belletta from the Heartland Owners forum and he told me that he would get a hold of the factory and have somebody get back to me. Low and behold a salesman from the factory called and I explained everything to him. About 1 week later he calls back and says sorry you are out of warranty. See if they had a 2 year warranty it would have been covered. To me that statement about having a 2 year warranty was a big selling point to us buy a Jayco. I have talked to different people that have or still own Heartlands and was told that they will never own another one, just because of the warranty.

clutch 06-04-2014 11:56 PM

Jayco now uses Lippert slides. From my past experience with hydraulic slides they would not be an upgrade. The electric systems may be slower but they don't make a mess when things go bad. As mentioned before, the two year warranty is a good thing to have but you could buy an extended with any other brand.

Bobx2 06-05-2014 07:04 AM

I have read on all the forums, yes, even this one, stories about things happening right after the warranty expires, and having to pay out of pocket to have it fixed. That's what happens when the warranty expires. And from the reply I got above, if you aren't going to keep up on normal maintenance, even a 2 year warranty isn't going to save you. Better buy the extended warranty as well.
Let's be honest here. All brands have their hating owners, or previous owners, as well as those who bleed the brand, and it has zero faults and is the perfect rv. I've read on this forum the same things, how people will never buy another Jayco. Those types are on ALL the forums. I take all the extreme comments, from both sides, and throw them out, and pay attention to those who are more level headed. Those are the sources of good information.

josieo 07-09-2014 11:21 AM

Well it depends
 
Buying an RV is a big choice. Some basic questions to ask yourself is what is important to you? Where will you be going? size, floor plan, important things to you and your spouse. Now as far as Jayco goes, yes they have a great 2 year warranty, there are many Jayco dealers so with that warranty it would be easier to get a repair done. Also they are made with longer thicker screws, wood frame, and plates. This means the RV is more solid and durable than most competitors, they are very picky, as Amish build these coaches including the furniture so as well helps with problems that you won't have as many places to go to fix everything if you ever need it even. As well the price is more competitive for the quality you get, compared to likewise priced RV's you get a better quality. I used to sell consigned used RV's and sold all years makes and models, this is how I know. If you are buying new first thing is to start with a price range, size, weight and a few must haves for you and your spouse. Jayco is sold a lot in AZ and there is extreme weather in AZ because they do have excellent insulation, offer the option of a thermal package and have upgraded heating and cooling systems. Depends though on what you are looking for, if used the most important thing is how well it was treated, how many owners etc.... more so than manufacturer is in used RV's. Anyhow good luck hope my experience helped some.


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