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micron 09-09-2014 01:55 PM

I was looking at a Starcraft
 
I was passing by the dealership where I bought my Jayco and saw a small 2015 Starcraft with a rear slideout. Its a new design as far as I can tell. Its the Starcraft Launch 19BHS. I really like the floorplan a lot more than the Jayco Swift 184BH that I have. It looks like a winner as it is only weighs a little more has a power awning, and a dual axle. Also Starcraft nows gives the same two year warranty as Jayco. I wasn't exactly in the market for a new TT but this one got my attention. Has anyone else seen it and what are some of your thoughts?

nbhybrid 09-09-2014 02:00 PM

it is a 1000 lbs more.....that is more than a little but at least it has holding tanks. Jayco and the 9 gallon black is no good

Grumpy 09-09-2014 02:05 PM

It's an interesting floor plan especially if your limited on what you can tow. It will be interesting if JAYCO comes out with something similar. There for a while they had a little duplication in floor plans, but that may be going away.

nbhybrid 09-09-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy (Post 232666)
It's an interesting floor plan especially if your limited on what you can tow. It will be interesting if JAYCO comes out with something similar. There for a while they had a little duplication in floor plans, but that may be going away.

they do sort of...the X213 is only 400 lbs heavier and more importantly it is a FOOT wider....big difference in comfort for only 400 lbs.

Once you are in between that 3500-5500lb range the TV is generally the same. so if you can tow the starcraft you can likely tow the nicer jayco. although I am sure the jayco costs more

DocBrown 09-09-2014 02:32 PM

As said, more than a little heavier. 4,750# GVWR as opposed to 3,500# for your Swift. The X213 nbhybrid cites is not 400# more, its 750# more at 5,500# GVWR. Never go by dry weight. Not a single one of us has a trailer that actually weighs the dry weight when towing.

nbhybrid 09-09-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DocBrown (Post 232679)
As said, more than a little heavier. 4,750# GVWR as opposed to 3,500# for your Swift. The X213 nbhybrid cites is not 400# more, its 750# more at 5,500# GVWR. Never go by dry weight. Not a single one of us has a trailer that actually weighs the dry weight when towing.


lol..most of us can go by dry weight. Just because you have CC doesn't mean your individual needs change.
There are a lot of trailers with 2 tons of CC...are you saying if you had one you would use all 4000lbs for stuff:eek:

bottom line it is 400lbs more like I stated

athread678 09-09-2014 02:56 PM

I really like this floor plan too! More importantly, I like the slide as opposed to the hybrid tents. We're looking at moving out of our pup and are considering this as an option.

My husband prefers the Jayco since it "claims" to have a king bed in the slide. He's 6'6"/270lbs, so a queen can get pretty tight. I, on the other hand, don't see why one wouldn't just go with a larger TT for the price. Seems like there would be tons more storage and room for a family to grow. But, I guess it all depends on what you can tow.

Rustic Eagle 09-09-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nbhybrid (Post 232688)
lol..most of us can go by dry weight.....snip

If by "most" you mean RV sales representatives, then I would agree :D

For reader clarification it should be noted that Jayco's published dry weights (web site, brochures...., what's being referenced here) are not representative of actual as-shipped dry weights, actual dry weights (UVW) are identified on the yellow sticker attached to the trailer. Depending on the particular model the actual UVW ship weight can very from 150lbs to 800lbs more then the published dry weights.

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Originally Posted by nbhybrid (Post 232688)
snip......bottom line it is 400lbs more like I stated......snip

.... Correct, only when comparing inaccurate published dry weights.

Bob

nbhybrid 09-09-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustic Eagle (Post 232715)
If by "most" you mean RV sales representatives, then I would agree :D

For reader clarification it should be noted that Jayco's published dry weights (web site, brochures...., what's being referenced here) are not representative of actual as-shipped dry weights, actual dry weights (UVW) are identified on the yellow sticker attached to the trailer. Depending on the particular model the actual UVW ship weight can very from 150lbs to 800lbs more then the published dry weights.



.... Correct, only when comparing inaccurate published dry weights.

Bob

I really do not understand what is going here?????? why are you questioning my post?

Sure PUBLISHED dry weights are not accurate but I am quoting base weights of both units dry

I am unsure why you are saying I am incorrect.....We are not talking whether it can carry more or if it CAN weigh more I am stating FACTS...

The dry weight of the Starcraft is 3575 the Jayco is 4005...those are the two facts...what happens after they are loaded doesn't pertain to this conversation

Rustic Eagle 09-09-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nbhybrid (Post 232719)
snip...... why are you questioning my post?.....snip

I wasn't questioning your post, I was providing a clarification for readers (especially newbies) that there is a difference between "published" and "actual" dry weights.

Lots of folks have purchased new trailers thinking the published dry weights are an accurate representation of the product, only to find out that once they get it home and load it the unit is much heavier then they had originally figured. The majority of RV sales people use the published weights when speaking to customers.

There are a number JOF threads/posts that touch on this dry weight difference, and in every case the JOF member was surprised at the weight delta.

No where in my post did I state you were incorrect.

Bob


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