A rant!

[SmokeyBear-JAY]

I just called an RV park to make a reservation. Was told they will not take a rig as old as mine, with no explanation and no recommendation. I told them to take their space and shove it.

Anybody have a recommendation around the Virginia City / Carson City area?

Planning on going there for the Outhouse Races in October.

 

[Grumpy]

Can't recommend any, but yes, there are many CG's with a 10 yr rule unfortunately. Have you used the RV Life online directory to search since they sponsor the forum?

 

[markb5900]

Most campgrounds I have seen with the 10 year rule have had an * that if you sent a picture of your unit, it might be allowed.

 

[Taftcoach]

It's safer legally to set a subjective rule than an objective one.

 

[Route 66 Traveler]

I just called an RV park to make a reservation. Was told they will not take a rig as old as mine, with no explanation and no recommendation. I told them to take their space and shove it.

…..and you told the truth!! I have three more years before mine is 10 years old, then if they ask I’ll fudge a bit.

 

[SmokeyBear-JAY]

Can't recommend any, but yes, there are many CG's with a 10 yr rule unfortunately. Have you used the RV Life online directory to search since they sponsor the forum?

Thanks. Am sifting through RV Life now. Forgot about Nevada. Plenty of Casino camping available.

 

[pauldeere]

It's odd that this came up. We were in Florida the entire month of February, we stayed a 4 different camp grounds or resorts. When my wife called the first question each resort asked was , How old was our R.V.? Up until know I was not aware of a 10 yr. rule. At a legal point of view wouldn't this be considered discrimination?

 

[CAG-JAY]

I know that some like older units and keep them in pristine shape but fact is from what I have seen many do not and when they show up at RV parks they are distractions from the park, which then causes others to hesitate before stopping in. So you now have an RV park that cannot sell spaces because what is there is junk. Sorry but it comes down to selling spaces and junk will not do that. So while your rig may be great, others are not and we have all seen a few of those is parks that we have stopped at.

 

[Taftcoach]

It's odd that this came up. We were in Florida the entire month of February, we stayed a 4 different camp grounds or resorts. When my wife called the first question each resort asked was , How old was our R.V.? Up until know I was not aware of a 10 yr. rule. At a legal point of view wouldn't this be considered discrimination?

Actually if you use a subjective standard of appearance you open yourself to allegations that you are discriminating based on a protected class. For example "you claim it's the appearance of my trailer, but there are others similar in appearance already here. You are really discriminating because I'm X" There aren't laws against discriminating against RVs.

 

[Tunce the traveler]

I’ve run into that problem in Oregon

 

[The Village Idiot]

Although I sympathize with your frustration, it's their place and their rules. One of my future "dream trips' is to a campground that actually won't allow anyone with a camper shorter than 25'. Not to mention the motorcoach only resorts. All these campgrounds are probably less than 1%.

Tons more campgrounds that would love to have you.

 

[CAG-JAY]

Actually if you use a subjective standard of appearance you open yourself to allegations that you are discriminating based on a protected class. For example "you claim it's the appearance of my trailer, but there are others similar in appearance already here. You are really discriminating because I'm X" There aren't laws against discriminating against RVs.

While not exactly the same set of circumstances I believe SCOTUS has ruled, several times on a business owner’s right to refuse service for just about every reason and even to protected classes. And this is not a civil rights case.

 

[craigav]

I have read that only certain aspects are illegal to discriminate a customer over, one being the person's age. I have stayed at a few 55 and older campgrounds and while that works for me, I suspect that would be against the federal discrimination laws for those under 55.

Also, quite a few years back I reserved a site and was asked how old my RV was and I told them it was brand new which was true. When I arrived they told me sorry, but you have a Truck Camper (Brand new top of the line Lance) and that they don't allow Truck Campers or Popup Campers. I asked why I wasn't told this when I reserved the spot over the phone and I was nice about it, the manager said he was only the manager and didn't make the rules however since I was only going to be there for one night to go ahead and that he hoped no one would complain as he was OK with it but the owners were not and he was concerned if it got found out he could get in trouble. Being nice to the manager likely helped me in this case.

I most often stay in State Parks and National Parks although once in a while private parks as well. State and National Parks don't seem to have any concerns. If a private park did have a concern, I wouldn't care to stay there anyway. ~CA

 

[CAG-JAY]

Most retirement communities have had their restrictions up-help in courts. Sun City, Sun City West and a slew of them in Arizona. Again SCOTUS and state supreme courts have sided with business owners more than not. As long as they stick to their rules and don't make exceptions they have pretty strong "rights". The old sign "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service" is just that.


There are obviously groups that cannot be "excluded" but in most cases it is pretty easy for the business to enforce their restrictions without openly advertising that.


https://www.yourathometeam.com/blog/rules-requirements-living-in-55-plus-communities/

 

[jyh818]

It's almost like an HOA.

 

[norty1]

We regularly camp in a park that has no bathhouse and they do not allow any rig that is not self contained.

 

[CAG-JAY]

It's almost like an HOA.

In Arizona HOAs are pretty much unregulated by state law. They have their own set of regulations that pretty much leave restriction by any court or other entity out.

 

[JudyK-JAY22rb]

Actually if you use a subjective standard of appearance you open yourself to allegations that you are discriminating based on a protected class. For example "you claim it's the appearance of my trailer, but there are others similar in appearance already here. You are really discriminating because I'm X" There aren't laws against discriminating against RVs.

Discrimination, by legal definition applies to a person's 'personhood' -their characteristics.

BUT, if your characteristic is 'old camper' then....

It does suck for those for good people who keep their aging campers looking nice. As we know, there are plenty of people who own newer campers that I'd NEVER want to camping alongside.

 

[TCNashville]

I would've just lied. My 2012 Eagle looks very similar to the current Eagle class with the exception of grey vs white and is in pristine condition. I doubt they have brochures on every camper out there so as long as your camper looks good, it would probably be accepted. There is nothing on or in my camper that divulges it's age.

 

[norty1]

On this last trip to Fl. We had several fellow campers ask us the rigs age. I told them and they said they would never guess it was a 2011 except the white color gave it away.
I think that 10 year rule sometimes is to give the Cg an out if you roll in with a piece of junk!