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Bandguy

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I have a 2023 Jayflight 334RTS. The electrical system is kinda strange. The plugs in the kitchen, including the microwave, the plugs on the island, and the plugs in the bathroom are all on the same circuit. We can’t run more than one thing without flipping the breaker. It’s a 15 amp breaker. Any kitchen appliance cannot be run at the same time as anything else. I’m considering putting a larger breaker in (20 amp), but I don’t want to overload the wiring. I’m writing this to see if anyone else has had this issue, and is it a good idea to step up the breaker size. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
 
I have a 2023 Jayflight 334RTS. The electrical system is kinda strange. The plugs in the kitchen, including the microwave, the plugs on the island, and the plugs in the bathroom are all on the same circuit. We can’t run more than one thing without flipping the breaker. It’s a 15 amp breaker. Any kitchen appliance cannot be run at the same time as anything else. I’m considering putting a larger breaker in (20 amp), but I don’t want to overload the wiring. I’m writing this to see if anyone else has had this issue, and is it a good idea to step up the breaker size. Let me know what you think. Thanks.




You don't want to use a larger breaker. They used 14 gauge wire which is rated to 15 amps. If you are confident with your skills you might want to consider or hire a licensed electrician to add a new breaker, 12 gauge wire and a couple 20 amp outlets which would be a new circuit. You will need to add an appropriately placed GFCI breaker/outlet so the entire new circuit is properly protected. you don't want to skimp and ruin your day.
 
The microwave should be on an independent circuit. Every one I have seen has been on a 20 amp circuit.

As for the rest of the camper, it is normal all the other outlets to be on a single breaker.
 
As was stated, you do not want to change to a 20 amp breaker. And as stated, you can add or have added another 15 or 20 amp circuit or two. Question, are there any open pole spaces, or spare breakers? If No, then the adding more circuits is mute.
 
We've learned to use one appliance at a time from resetting breakers :)
Wouldn't it be great glamping if 50 amps was the new standard for any RV that has an AC. Of course most parks here are 30 amps with a 50 amp section for the big rigs. Some of the newer parks offer both at the pedestal. Anyway, hopefully it's the way of the future along with solar but for sure never up the breaker to stop it tripping in an RV or at home...it's a fire waiting to happen!
 
Band guy,
General information. If a breaker is overloaded often, it will begin tripping sooner. So, that means, it may already be “weak” and tripping early, or it will sometime in the future. I would suggest that you change that one by installing a new one, or changing it with another that is not used as much.
 
Any outlet within 6 feet of a water source or on the outside will be either GFCI protected by way of the circuit breaker or a GFCI outlet. Never ever change out a breaker or 12-volt fuse to a higher amp rating than the wiring is designed for. Very dangerous practice.

Here's an amperage draw chart that helps with calculating what can be run at the same time on a circuit. Some appliances may vary due to rating.

https://www.lilacresort.com/appliance-amperage-draw-chart/
 
JFlightRisk,
Those are Canadian Amps. We want USA amps. Just kidding. The portable ice maker is incorrect. It should be 1.9, not 19 amps.
 
JFlightRisk,
Those are Canadian Amps. We want USA amps. Just kidding. The portable ice maker is incorrect. It should be 1.9, not 19 amps.

Good catch. We don't have one of those to compare values.

I think there's a compound quantum algebraic formula to convert Canadian amps to American amps.....however I have no knowledge of its actual printed existence anywhere in the free world. :rolleyes::facepalm:
 
(I changed out my 15s for 20s UNTIL I realized the wire was only 14 :facepalm:. Changed it back as soon as I realized that.
 
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Good catch. We don't have one of those to compare values.

I think there's a compound quantum algebraic formula to convert Canadian amps to American amps.....however I have no knowledge of its actual printed existence anywhere in the free world. :rolleyes::facepalm:
Honestly, when I was working on a design on a Canadian job Sachs Electric was doing, I used USA amps and assumed they would work. I didn’t hear about anything blowing up there, so they must work.
 
I have a 2023 Jayflight 334RTS. The electrical system is kinda strange. The plugs in the kitchen, including the microwave, the plugs on the island, and the plugs in the bathroom are all on the same circuit. We can’t run more than one thing without flipping the breaker. It’s a 15 amp breaker. Any kitchen appliance cannot be run at the same time as anything else. I’m considering putting a larger breaker in (20 amp), but I don’t want to overload the wiring. I’m writing this to see if anyone else has had this issue, and is it a good idea to step up the breaker size. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
No! You will possibly start a fire.
We plug other devices on the other side of the RV.
If the A/C is on, you must not use anything else like the micro wave
 
I’m not an electrician but if I were looking for more outlets I would add a 20 amp inlet in a suitable location. I would connect it to an electrical box using 12 gauge romex with two duplex 20 amp outlets on an interior wall. I would connect to the pole using the 20 amp outlet on the post and a 20 amp extension cord. It would be great for running 1800 watt electric heater for extra heat if needed.
 
The maximum allowed wattage of a 120 volt electric space heater in the US is 1500 watts, I believe.
 
I have a detached garage with some rooms above it. The bathroom has an electric heater recessed in the wall 120v/1800 watts. It is Dayton brand. I opted to recess it in the wall. I remember that there was a surface mount kit available. Not sure if that kit came with a plug-in cord or it was meant to be hard wired. Walmart has some 1800w heaters on their website not sure about those.
 
I looked up that heater on the Walmart site. It is the only 1800 watt portable electric heater I’ve ever seen. I would not put one in a house unless you put in a dedicated 20 amp circuit. It will not run very long on a 15 amp circuit.
I’m not sure how it got listed. Tried to find literature on it, but could not find any.
Looked again. Very strange. The info on Walmart says the heating element is 1500 watts, but on high heat it consumes 1800 watts. So, the fan is 300 watts? I guess so.
 
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Bandguy, I had a similar problem with the kitchen and bathroom breaker tripping. I don’t know if you have the entertainment center but I do. My fix was easy once I realized that the fireplace has a single outlet inside the cabinet and is on a dedicated breaker. The TV was plugged into that single outlet. The fireplace heater which is 1500 watts was plugged into the duplex outlet, also in the cabinet, which is on the same breaker as the kitchen and bathroom outlets. Almost anything used with the fireplace on tripped the breaker.
 
Standard household receptacles are wired to 15A breakers with 14 AWG wiring. No matter how many receptacles are ganged together, the breaker and wiring support a total of 15A which is 1800 Watts (at 120vac). Kettles and hair dryers are among the most powerful devices made to plug into those receptacles.
 
Standard household receptacles are wired to 15A breakers with 14 AWG wiring. No matter how many receptacles are ganged together, the breaker and wiring support a total of 15A which is 1800 Watts (at 120vac). Kettles and hair dryers are among the most powerful devices made to plug into those receptacles.
Generally speaking, you are correct. Yes, 1800 watts/120 volts= 15 amps. And generally 15 amp circuits are for most circuits in a dwelling. But breakers are only rated at 100% (1800 watts on 15a) for a load running up to three hours. If longer than three hours, then they are rated at 80% or 1440 watts. Kettles are generally connected in kitchens 20 amp circuits, and hair dryers are connected in bathrooms. Usually dedicated circuit, but not always. RV’s, no 20 a in kitchen, and no dedicated in bathroom.
 

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