Lithium
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JudyK-JAY22rb
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Actually, I don’t think the PD4560K18NS2B is Lithium ready, you would need to replace the converter section with a PD4560CSV.
I could be wrong, but check it carefully…. https://www.etrailer.com/question-603874.html
The PD4560CSV replaces the PD4560LICSV
I could be wrong, but check it carefully…. https://www.etrailer.com/question-603874.html
The PD4560CSV replaces the PD4560LICSV
JudyK-JAY22rb
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I have not yet looked at the link, but remember the website of PD stating their '4500 series are lithium compatible'
I guess the best way would be to look for that tiny 'LI LA' switch on the panel.
Yes the current series PD4500 are lithium ready, the PD4560K18NS2B is an older version.
You have that backwards. The LICSV is the lithium replacement
dvspl
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Here's the "official" PD list of solutions: https://www.progressivedyn.com/wp-c...ary/PD4500-switching-to-Lithium-batteries.pdf
Personally, I don't think their solution that results in constant 14.4 V is a very good one. I don't have the PD4500, I have an older PD9260 that was also not lithium compatible. So I added the Charge Wizard Remote Pendant which lets me manually set the charger voltages. That's been working well for me for about 3 years. It's a little more complicated to add that to the 4500 series than the 9200 series because you have to wire the pendant plug into the 4 pin header. Here is their instruction sheet: https://www.progressivedyn.com/wp-c...uals/Technical-library/PD92201_for_PD4600.pdf The pendant was a cheap fix for me, but if I didn't have a 9200 I would probably replace the converter with a newer version.
Personally, I don't think their solution that results in constant 14.4 V is a very good one. I don't have the PD4500, I have an older PD9260 that was also not lithium compatible. So I added the Charge Wizard Remote Pendant which lets me manually set the charger voltages. That's been working well for me for about 3 years. It's a little more complicated to add that to the 4500 series than the 9200 series because you have to wire the pendant plug into the 4 pin header. Here is their instruction sheet: https://www.progressivedyn.com/wp-c...uals/Technical-library/PD92201_for_PD4600.pdf The pendant was a cheap fix for me, but if I didn't have a 9200 I would probably replace the converter with a newer version.
That was some good information.
I’ve been all over the PD site looking to update my 4590K, but the site leads me nowhere. I found the LICSV upgrade on eTrailer by chance.
Tell me how and when you operate the pendant. Seems like you would have to stay on top of that.
You could be right, as I stated “I could be wrong, but check it carefully”.
I believe the “LICSV” only did lithium, where as the new version PD4560CSV converter will do lead acid and has the switch for lithium.
I find Progressive’s site lacking in up to date info, best to contact them directly, they are pretty good at replying.
https://www.progressivedyn.com/4500-series/
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dvspl
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It is a little bit of a PITA to stay on top of manually, but I find I don't have to change modes that often. We camp with a mix of shore power and boondocking. When we have shore power (or when our motorhome is parked in our driveway) I leave the charge wizard in "storage" mode (13.2 V). That keeps the LIFEPO batteries at about 60% SOC and the converter feeds all the DC loads. When we're expecting to boondock, I put it into "normal" mode (13.6 V) the night before and the batteries charge up to about 90% SOC. The alternator/DC-to-DC charger tops them up to 100% during the drive. While we're boondocking, I leave it in "boost" mode (14.4 V) so I get maximum charging amps from the generator when I run it. If I had solar, I'd probably just leave it in "storage" (13.2 V) all the time and let the solar charge controller do most/all of the charging. Then I'd put it into "boost" (14.4 V) if I was running the generator after days of poor sun.
Great info.
You’re camping just like me, but I have solar and my truck has 2000w inverter if it isn’t sunny and I plan on 400ah of lithium for the residential fridge when boondocking. I don’t think I will be in trouble for power very often.
You method seems to be almost a PITA, but it’s probably cheaper than replacing my converter, when I could let the solar do most of the work all summer.
dvspl
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Well, it is a bit of a PITA but the price was right! The problem with the older converters is that they are capable of charging at 14.4 V, but they never get there with auto-sensing. So they realistically charge at a max of 13.6 V. If you've got solar, that is probably fine since the converter will get your battery bank to ~90% SOC and the solar can top it off. The rare exception may be when you're boondocking and have multiple rainy days in a row. Would be nice to be able to start the genny and quick charge at 14.4 V but without the remote pendant, there's no way to force the converter to that mode. Still, if I were in your shoes (solar, plenty of battery, truck inverter), I don't think I'd do anything to the installed converter.
JudyK-JAY22rb
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Gee you’d think with the unit model letters/numbers ‘PD 45….’ It’d be included in the 4500 SERIES
Finish the Charge with Solar
You can use the old lead acid PD charger for connecting to shore power and let the solar charge the LiFePo4 battery to 100% when you need it boondocking.
I have the lithium charger from PD but have never needed it. It is there as a backup.
You can use the old lead acid PD charger for connecting to shore power and let the solar charge the LiFePo4 battery to 100% when you need it boondocking.
I have the lithium charger from PD but have never needed it. It is there as a backup.
billcf7
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That works fine if he has solar. 80-90% charge on a lithium battery is still better than 50 % of a lead acid. There is nothing wrong with only charging your battery to 80%, besides it will last 20% longer in cycles
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