Maiden Voyage - Lessons Learned

Sehoner

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Hi All,
This weekend we took the 184BS out for its first trip. We've had the trailer for a bout a month, but couldn't find anything local until this weekend, so it's been sitting at the storage yard while we made trips to drop off stuff we bought.


Taking everyone's advice, we stayed local, booking at Rancho Seco for two nights, about a 25 minute drive for us. Water, power, dump station, fishing, swimming, and a general store should have been enough to cut our teeth and keep us busy for the two days.


Thursday the reservation company called and said the lake had tested "above state limits for E. Coli" and that swimming would be at our own risk. They also asked if we wanted to keep our reservation.


Of course I said yes as this was a shakedown trip and if nothing else we could walk around or leave early if everyone got too bored. In hindsight, I wouldn't have canceled, but I would have prepared for more eventualities...


We had some great neighbors - who were also on their shakedown trip. Their parents were old pros and were really helpful during set up and just nice people. Although, we never did find out why their fire pit was placed so close to our utility post - like three feet away.


First lesson - the heat.
I will, more than likely, never book a place during the summer in the valley that has only one option for swimming or getting wet. Setting up in 93 degree weather, with two dogs, two teenagers, one of which didn't want to be there at all, was not fun.


Second lesson - test as many systems and components as you can in the driveway - before you leave.


The slide got stuck. The right side motor wouldn't engage. After some light manual reading the wife held the button and I pushed a bit and that, we thought, cleared the bind and the slide went out all the way under power. We held the button to re-sync the motors as instructed and thought all was well. At this point I thought it was just stuck because I didn't lubricate the slide seals while it sat in the heat at storage and that caused it to stick on the right. Makes sense right? The rubber becomes a bit tacky in the heat and when pressed against the slide surface for weeks could likely become a bit sticky.


So I thought, "Ok, I'll definitely have to buy some of that lubricant stuff when I get home so this doesn't happen again."


Third lesson - the heat.


Digging through your bag of tools while in full sun in 93 degree heat isn't fun. Trying to fix a stuck slide in 93 degree heat isn't fun either. AND, when I turned on the A/C I only turned it to "High Fan" instead of "High Cool" so the trailer was hot.


My oldest sat in the car with the dogs and the AC running while myself, my wife and our youngest nearly evaporated while setting up. When we finally got the slide out, set the A/C to actually A/C, and closed the door I was soaked from head to toe.

Fourth lesson - if you bring it, you probably won't use it, but if you don't bring it...
The one screw I actually needed to remove was the one bit I didn't bring.


Fifth lesson - stay close to home for your shakedown trip.
My FIL, a seasoned RVer was 30 minutes away, and thank the good lord for that.


The heat kept us trapped in the trailer for most of the day Saturday and the wife and I decided to send our oldest home with the dogs. He wasn't "feeling good" anyways and the dogs were more of a hassle at this point. Definitely need to think about a better system for camping with them.


My youngest and I went to fish right at Magic Hour and he ended up catching his first fish ever - a small bluegill - so that made the entire trip worth it. After that we made dinner, a small fire and S'mores, then relaxed and went to bed. Left the fan on low, opened the windows and slept like a rock until 0630.


Got up, made some coffee and started packing to break camp. That's where the trip went sideways.


Sixth lesson - something will break, it's all part of the process.

The slide was stuck out. We tried everything and I mean everything to get it back in. Our neighbors helped. Their parents help. We read and re-read the manual. Looked online, bypassed, plugged and unplugged until I was out of options. I knew what I had to do, thanks to RV Tech, but I wanted to wait as long as possible before I started ripping apart my wife's beautiful new trailer. The one she had been trying to convince me to buy for like 10 years...


And so, I did what any self-respecting male would do in this situation - I started taking things apart.


First I pulled easy panels off to get to the wiring, looking for apparent shorts, abrasions, crimps, cuts, etc. I Found none. The code was flashing two green and eight red, so that was a short in the wiring for motor #2.


Once I verified the wiring for both motors looked okay, I started taking off the trim around the slide to get to the motor. I only wanted to pull the right side, but of course Jayco decided that to get to the right side you had to remove the top and by removing the top, you'd also need to remove the left side.


Did I mention I didn't have the correct driver bit to pull the motor?
Also didn't have a ladder...


Seventh Lesson - don't unnecessarily add more stress to an already stressful situation.



By now I know my wife is 100% panicked on the inside, hot and sweaty again, had already smacked her head on the undercarriage looking for a way to manually retract the slide - you know, like the manual alludes to - and was so over the whole trip that I knew I had to send her home while I called for help and fixed the problem.


So, that's what I did. I told her to pack some stuff in the Xterra and take our boy home while I called her dad to bring me a bit and a ladder.



Spoiler alert: for a Lippert/Schwintec slide you can remove the set screw on the outside and pop the motor up our of the coupler, then push the slide in or out with ease. The manual says that you can unplug the motor and that "releases the motor brake mechanism" so you can move the slide manually, but this didn't work for either side.


So the FIL brings me the square bit and six-foot ladder. I remove the set screw on the outside, pop the motor up with a flat-head and connect motor #1 to power. He pushes from the outside while I hit the switch. We're done in less than two minutes and I reconnect motor #2 to power and reseat it into the coupler.


Note: you have to reseat the motor into the coupler and leave the motor installed or you risk having the slide - slide out while driving. Not sure if you need to connect it to power, but I did, just to be safe.


Finish breaking down and connect the trailer to the Ranger - which, BTW, is a nice truck and I'm not a Ford guy at all.


Pull out, head to storage to dump and then drop me and the trailer off at home.


Lesson Eight - at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.



Everybody made it home safely, so that's the important part. And, Liam caught his first fish so that makes my heart happy.


But now, I've got a brand new 2023 Jayco 184BS Western with a partially dismantled slide and a call to make to the dealer.


And an Amazon cart that is filling up again.


Lesson Nine - Everything's Eventual.


Lesson Ten - watch every video you can about common RV repairs or things that break commonly on RVs before your first trip - and be prepared for something to go wrong.


Rich
 
Welcome to the Forum, (and RVing 101!) from Western New York State!

You handled your first trip very well. Congratulations!

Camp Driveway is always recommended, when at all possible, for some of the obvious reasons you've experienced. We know that it's not 100% doable for everyone (think HOA), and your choice of being close to home is a good second one.

We've also found that the extreme heat about doubles the stress levels, and sure slows us down setting up.

Lastly, the book of "Lessons Learned" is ongoing, even for seasoned campers.

Your next outing will be better.
 
Congratulations on the new rig AND being able to persevere! This lifestyle is always an adventure! Did the one kid who didn't want to be there eventually have a change of heart?
 
Great write up. Trial by fire it sounds like. You learned more about that slide system in 24 hrs than myself in the first three years. On a good note, your experience will be helpful to others who read this or those you can help in a campground at some point.
 
Before you chase gremlins on your slide; try it with the jacks up. We had a Schwintek bedroom slide that would not move if the jacks were down. The jacks caused a bind on the slide when down. Worked perfect with jacks up. A Schwintek slide takes very little resistance to stall the motor
 
Ah yes, the first shakedown cruise. When I bought my motor home new in late 2016 I assumed that since it was brand new I wouldn't have any problems like I did with my 25 year old Lance camper. WRONG! Actually I had less problems with my well seasoned camper.

I had 26 items that required attention in the early outings. I did all my own repairs as I did not want the rig sitting at the service center for 6 months. So, now that I got rid of the problems, camping should be a breeze with no problems. Wrong!

There is always something it seems on every trip. Mostly minor fortunately. When I return from every trip this is always something that we want or need to do to the rig. Some repairs and some more items to carry with us. I can't tell you how many kitchen sinks we carry (figure of speech although we do have a sink insert for washing dishes which is great).

We are camping right now and I have things on the list already. The insert rubber molding on one side of the door popped out of the channel and was banging on the side for part of the drive here. Some of my leveling jacks are making weird noises. Groan.

So, things to do before the next run in a month. As you mention, Amazon is my best friend. And I totally agree, if you don't bring something, that is the item you will need.
 
Welcome to the Forum, (and RVing 101!) from Western New York State!

You handled your first trip very well. Congratulations!

Lastly, the book of "Lessons Learned" is ongoing, even for seasoned campers.

Your next outing will be better.


Thank you, and man we sure hope so! I told the wife that if they never wanted to go again, I still use the **** out of it to go fishing. ;-)
 
Did the one kid who didn't want to be there eventually have a change of heart?




No, but he sure perked up the minute he got home. He stayed home with the dogs, and in hindsight I'm glad they weren't there Sunday when the SHTF with the slide.
 
Great write up. Trial by fire it sounds like. You learned more about that slide system in 24 hrs than myself in the first three years. On a good note, your experience will be helpful to others who read this or those you can help in a campground at some point.


Man, I sure hope so! The people next to us, Pete (I think) and Virginia, were super helpful and tried to help, but his big ol class A had hydraulic slide mechanisms so he didn't know much about ours.



Still, great people to have next door on your first trip.
 
Before you chase gremlins on your slide; try it with the jacks up. We had a Schwintek bedroom slide that would not move if the jacks were down. The jacks caused a bind on the slide when down. Worked perfect with jacks up. A Schwintek slide takes very little resistance to stall the motor




Yep, tried that. At first we thought it wouldn't go out because the jacks were up, so we put them down and still had the issue. Didn't want to raise them when it was stuck out because we were moving the trailer so much trying to push it in.


It's absolutely insane how finicky that system is! I watched many more videos about it yesterday and I told my wife, "Babe, we did everything right. We literally did everything step by step the same as a few of these videos."


I'd almost rather have a hand crank at this point...
 
Great lessons and why we love no slides

First off way to manage the situation and the family including fur kids.
Second, great visual you painted of all the efforts. We had some similar issues w our brand new (at the time) Jay Feather 18RBM and finally figured out the manual way to retract the awning when all the power went down (turned out to be a recall issue w the battery cut off switch).

We love our no-slide model for some of the frustrations noted in the thread plus the floor plan suits us. Keep on traveling and take all the perspective offered here. Nice neighbors at the cg keep my faith in humanity.
 
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the detailed lessons learned. From our experience, you should have easier sailing for future trips plus you learned, like it or not, a wealth of information about camping, repairing, relationships, and overall survivability. Congratulations!

Happy trails to you and yours including that grumpy kid. Sounds like you've got the pluck and determination to find lots of good adventures ahead. : )
 
Go to Harbor Freight and buy the small box of driver bits. It contains every kind of bits, (even security bits). Small box and easy to store.
 
The teenager being full of angst and sitting in the car with AC while everyone else is working on setting up, figuring stuff out rings very true. We battle with that every time we go and just have to live with the angst, but it does get old..

Glad you were able to work it enough to get home. Seems every trip we take something fun and exciting happens (or it is after the trip). But alas, the trips do have good times and they are certainly memorable.
 

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