No More West Coast Diesel Motorhomes





The jobs will end up in other states as will sales and registration. It is no secret that many RVers register in states other than their home state to avoid tax and license fees. It has been going on in Oregon for years. RV owners in Arizona register in Oregon to avoid the license fees in AZ. Now that Oregon is joining CA some other states will come more to the forefront. This just makes more criminals out of RV owners. I have a neighbor, who has lived here for 20 years and never registered a vehicle in AZ. They all have Oregon plates.
 
More insanity that we have come to witness lately, I watched RV Miles video on this topic. The letters and exchanges that he provided is well worth everyone's time to watch.
 
So my first question would be what if you already own a motorhome in one of these states? Are they just now giant paperweights?
 
what about diesel school busses and tour busses. dumb ahs state gov. what about class b and b+ Mercedes motorhomes. another state tax no sales revenue loss.
 
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Once again... what California and the country gets when "non-Elected" officials are making laws(rules)

If a California motorhome owner wants to avoid the HIGH taxes and regulations - and register their rig, States like Montana do it easily.
 
Not just west coast, California, Oregon, Washington, New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts are included in the new rule!


The ban includes all trucks over 8,500 pounds also!


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ban-on-new-diesel-trucks-by-2036/70173221007/


https://www.truckinginfo.com/10158758/six-states-now-committed-to-zero-emission-truck-rules
Thanks for the list of states...That I'll never visit, or spend a penny in, from now on. Who was it that said, "Elections have consequences?" Those who are elected appoint those bureaucrats to do all the dirty work behind closed doors. They know exactly the ramifications of their actions on us - they just don't care! It's all about power and control.
 
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I remember when going from lead to unleaded gas destroyed the boating industry.
 
I live on the "Left Coast".
Pretty frustrated anymore.
1 county pretty much controls all the state elections for the entire state because of size.


KING...🤴

That right there explains the difference between a democracy vs a Constitutional republic. Maybe states should have their own electoral college for Governor races.

From what I understand, current RVs can be registered in the state. RVs from out of state can be registered as long as it has over 7500 miles. You can't buy one from another state and bring it in right away.
 
Thor is developing a EV motorhome, I read.


Interesting video title: Driving the Thor EV motorhome - future tech or fantasy The video is also interesting and informative - thanks Norty. I think they are the future, but will change travel as we know it. Change in a way that is undesireable to me, but maybe the only option for future generations.

They might work better here in SWFL than some other locations. We are flat with lots of sun. OTOH, we run our A/C units 24/7 most of the year.

I try not to get caught by sales pitches and thats all that's available for EV motorhomes at this time; they have no history to draw on.

Four takes from the Video:

1) The reviewer stated you never have to "plug-in" if you use the onboard gas engine/generator to maintain a charge. To me that makes it more of a hybrid than an EV - still relying on internal combustion technology.

2) As I understand the video, most (all?) components will be chassis mounted. I'm a DIYer and want to know that I don't have to take the coach apart for maintenance. If you are not a DIY person and you have a breakdown in a remote location, the mobile repair folks might not be familiar with your EV MH. ... electronic steering and brakes for starters.

3) What is their value in a few years? Many car dealers don't want trade-in hybrid cars because most buyers don't trust the condition of the drive battery.

4) I would not have a MH without pulling a toad. For us having a vehicle at destination is a must. So how does flat towing affect EV MH performance?

I hope others will watch that video and post their thoughts here. It's a chance for all of us to start to understand this new technology.

P.S. If the wait at the charging station is long, that's a huge change for us. If the gas engine is started so you can avoid the charge station, the change wasn't all that much.
 
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IMO, it's battery technology that is the "Achilles heel" of the EV world. And I believe the strategy used in the Ram Charger pickups is the best "solution" going at this time.

It's already been touched on, but what happens when that battery is kaput? Can it be recycled? Refurbished? Buried in the same pit where the minerals to make it came from? And how expensive will it be to replace at end of life?

Also, how can we squeeze more power into them? At some point there will be a physical maximum. We already have new terms like "range anxiety". I just saw a commercial for an EV last night that was a small sedan or SUV that "boasted" a range of 342 miles. I live in Texas, 342 miles is nothing. And then how long does it take to charge? Is there a charging station available somewhere on the route? Then we have our already over-taxed power grid; how can we upgrade that enough to carry all the extra power needed? And how can we generate that power efficiently and securely?

I believe an ICE generator that does not connect to the drive (like a locomotive) is the best answer for now. A small, efficient gasoline ICE engine (or better yet, diesel) that acts as a generator to charge smaller battery packs that drive electric motors seems like a very elegant solution to alleviate many/most of the concerns surrounding electric-driven vehicles.

This whole situation and how it affects the RV industry seems to be "par for the course" for them. They've been operating on the fringes with virtually no industry regulation, getting exceptions to all sorts of things (like lemon laws). Looks like it's finally catching up to them maybe? Seems to me if they had been paying attention, and taking it seriously, they might have been more prepared for this.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this new law. I think it's ridiculous on its face, and the market as a whole is not ready for this at this point...
 

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