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Old 12-12-2017, 01:13 PM   #1
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Artic package

We just bought a 2003 Jayco Designer Legacy 3710 in great condition, a one owner and forgot to ask about the Artic Package. Could you help me . I need to know if this one has an Artic Package. We are living in it Branson,Mo.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:33 PM   #2
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We bought the trailer in our sig. We have the arctic package and wanted to stay in it over the winter. I called Jayco and asked about using it in cold weather and they said not to use it below freezing because the water lines could freeze. So much for their BS advertising.
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We bought the trailer in our sig. We have the arctic package and wanted to stay in it over the winter. I called Jayco and asked about using it in cold weather and they said not to use it below freezing because the water lines could freeze. So much for their BS advertising.
Don't know who you talked to, but obviously it was the wrong person. Had our last 4 units out in the winter and temps went as low as 13 and nothing froze.

We do use a heated water hose, and do not leave the sewer hose out.
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We just bought a 2003 Jayco Designer Legacy 3710 in great condition, a one owner and forgot to ask about the Artic Package. Could you help me . I need to know if this one has an Artic Package. We are living in it Branson,Mo.
Welcome to the forum.

When looking underneath the trailer, do you see tanks and water lines etc. or a smooth plastic covering between the trailer frame rails with only the waste lines exposed?

If the bottom is covered between the frame rails, it probably has the Arctic Package.

Call Jayco with your VIN#. They can probably tell you what it was manufactured with.
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Don't know who you talked to, but obviously it was the wrong person. Had our last 4 units out in the winter and temps went as low as 13 and nothing froze.

We do use a heated water hose, and do not leave the sewer hose out.
What Grumpy said ^^^.

We have Jayco's Thermal Package. We've camped with lows in the mid 20s without a problem. We used our fresh water tank and kept the sewer hose stowed.

We're leaving in a few days to camp with the low temps again expected to be in the low to mid 20s. No worries.
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Supposedly Jayco tests the current thermal package down to 0*. Don’t know what the thermal packages back in 2003 consisted of so not much help. They have archived brochures on their website.
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Had not read that spec, doubt if I need that but June camping at elevation next year won't test that level.
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My 2015 32BHDS with the glacier package includes reflectix directly under the roof sheathing, and reflextix under the slideouts' roof sheathing.

The enclosed belly seems to be insulated, and a duct from the furnace is pointed down into the enclosed belly.

I still winterize the fresh water system, but I have no worries of "flushing" the toilet with a bucket during winter operations. I did have one weekend where the main sewer valve froze closed... which meant as soon as I turned off the furnace I'd end up with a 40 gallon poopsicle.

I simply returned to the camper the next week during a january thaw and the gate valve worked fine, and the tank was liquid.

My solution is now to stuff batt unsulation up the outlet (wrapped in disposable grocery bags) so that the stretch of outlet pipe between the outside cap and the main gate valve is insulated from the outside ambient temps.

As long as the valve has liquid on the wet side... and you keep cold air from touching the dry side... the gate valve will stay operable.
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The big problem for me is not so much about cold when stationary, it is the transport part. That calls more for 12v powered tank heaters while in transit. One could be boon docking and enclosed bottom with heater blowing thru it is one thing, but then heading down the road and it may be a while before reaching an area to dump. Without actual tank heaters, that can be an issue.
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The black tank and the grey tanks freeze MUCH SLOWER than the dump valve. My solution of insulating the gate valve from cold air still applies to the traveling-down-the-road problem. Ultra Heat also sells valve heater pads... but be aware of how much current the heating pads are using. Your truck's alternator would have to be in tip top shape to keep enough current flowing.
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