Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-16-2016, 02:01 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Texas
Posts: 4,023
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLHTK-JOE View Post
We haven't looked at any Seneca's but we did check their floor plans and prices. I agree 100% with everything you stated but they are just a little out of our price range. We may have to just settle on towing the trike and leave the car at home if we stick with pursuing a Precept.
Jayco's Seneca is not the only game in the "Super C" market. Check out Thor Motor Coach; they make a couple that sit on Ford's F-550 Diesel chassis (front end looks like a Ford Super Duty pickup). I've just been stalking them a bit on the interwebz, I'm not in the market, and so I haven't been inside one. But their prices are certainly more attractive than the Super C's on the Freightliner (or the older Kodiak). No too long ago, PPL Motorhomes out of Houston had a 2014 model on consignment for $85K. And they claim these can tow quite a bit (20K IIRC, but at least 10K).
__________________

__________________


2014 Jay Flight 28 BHBE
2015 RAM 2500 6.4L HEMI, Tradesman 4x4, 3.73
Blue Ox SwayPro (BXW 1503)

Upgraded from an REI internal frame backpack and a Eureka 1/2 dome tent!
Camper_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2016, 05:37 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 68
One thing I would add would be repairs.

I am guessing that almost any shop that works on big rigs could and would work on the Freightliner M2 power train (Seneca, Dynamax, Renegade ...). Most large truck stops have a diesel shop that could service these vehicles if needed.

If you get a cracked windshield in the m2 you can have it replaced for around $300. Not sure what a class A would cost.

I like the idea of an F550 front end. The one thing that worries me is any major repair on a Ford pick up truck diesel calls for lifting off the cab to do the repair. Not sure if the same procedure is called for on an F550 chassis cab. This would be very difficult and probably impractical on a motorhome. Maybe a repair like this would never be needed or perhaps it is not a big deal to do one.

I have an e450 class C and I have found many Ford dealers will not work on motorhomes. I have no experience with the super C's or class A's yet.

These are just the the things I have wondered about as I think about my next motorhome.
__________________

TakeItEasy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2016, 07:26 AM   #23
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cape Coral
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jopopsy View Post
Wheelbase alone means nothing until you factor in the full length of the coach. Wheelbase/Coach length (inches) = Wheelbase ratio.

>56% usually lends itself to more stability while under way. Usually.
We did an initial deal on the new 2016 31UL. PDI and test drive to happen in the next few days and delivery next Wednesday if everything checks out. I will be getting it out on interstate for a good part of test drive so I can deal with being in traffic with some big rigs and maybe even some windy conditions.

I think we will be giving up a little crash safety on the road for more livability while camped by going with the Class A instead of a C. But going from a 39' fiver with 3 large slides that enabled a living room area so wide and long it had a walk-around island, the transition to a Class C was just too tight. As it is we still have to adjust not having side-by-side washer and dryer and king bed.

Thanks to all for ideas, information, and suggestions.
FLHTK-JOE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2016, 05:02 PM   #24
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Dade City
Posts: 98
Started with a 31ul, handled terribly and had many serious issues. Traded out for a 35un, handles better but needs trac bar and other suspension improvements. Like the 35un floor plan much better than the 31. More floor space with slides in.
Jacobsnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2016, 06:03 PM   #25
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Golden
Posts: 65
Not sure if you travel in the south where temps can reach 100 degrees but with a class c you can close the curtain behind the driver and passenger seats and keep the cab cool and not have to run the generator for the a/c's to keep the whole coach cool. The Super C Seneca we have does not have heat on the engine compartment like F-450 chassis does. Price, well that's another subject.
__________________
Buddy Brown


2016 Seneca HJ
2004 Wrangler
Mountain Cajun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2016, 06:24 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Jackson
Posts: 971
I've always found that if I keep a vent in the back open the chassis AC is usually adequate. W/ the back vent open it drafts the dash AC right through the coach. The E450 has a really nice AC compressor.

*You need vent covers to do this. Don't try this w/o vent covers*
__________________
Currently between RV's
2017 F-150 SCREW 5'6" Bed XLT 3.5 EcoBoost 3.55 rear axle - 1818 lbs payload

2015 Greyhawk 29MV - Sold

Jopopsy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2016, 07:55 AM   #27
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cape Coral
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacobsnc View Post
Started with a 31ul, handled terribly and had many serious issues. Traded out for a 35un, handles better but needs trac bar and other suspension improvements. Like the 35un floor plan much better than the 31. More floor space with slides in.
Did about a 20 mile test drive. Dealer had put on full tank of fuel and 2/3 fresh water. None of our belongings are on yet of course.

My first impression was it didn't track that good. I wouldn't say it "wondered" but just seemed a little top heavy for 65mph on a non-windy day. Complete PDI not completed yet so I am not sure if tires are even up to air specs. I am hoping that once we load our belongings, mostly between the axles, it will handle a little better. I know from weighing my F350 and 5th wheel several times that our complete package of personal property weighs in around 900 to 1,000 pounds (pots, pan, food, clothing, basement stuff, etc.).

I don't know where the fresh water tank is located. I would hope it has baffles in it and not just an open square tank. Does anyone know the answer to this? If it doesn't have some type of baffling system inside of it I am guessing that could effect the handling.
FLHTK-JOE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2016, 10:00 AM   #28
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,036
My fresh water tank is just an open square plastic tank, all our RVs have had the same even from different manufacturers. I don't think they would go to the expense of adding baffles in the fresh water tank.
Fuel tanks do have various baffles for various reasons.

I would start by asking for a front end alignment before you get too far away, they don't do that at all after extending the frame and loading the coach structure. After that if you still aren't satisfied, add a rear trac bar. That will stop the tail wagging the dog and need for over steering.
abarkl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2016, 10:11 AM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Dade City
Posts: 98
If you get a 31ul with short wheelbase and smaller tires you will not be happy without adding suspension upgrades, which equals lots of money.
Jacobsnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2016, 07:34 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
Vicr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Snohomish
Posts: 257
Joe, make sure the tires have proper inflation. Mine were at 87 lbs. I called my guy who builds custom coaches and he said that's like driving on flat tires. I increased the pressure to 108 cold (tires say 110 max cold) and it was like a completely different coach.
__________________

Vicr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.