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Old 09-21-2016, 01:31 PM   #11
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I agree with you REWCamper (and others) my wife and I stayed in an older trailer this summer , that is permanently in a camp road (instead of us risking getting our camper in and out that bush road) That camper was so comfortable to sleep in (even though we had no electricity ) with the many many windows cranked open you got a breeze one way or the other and the windows could be left open even if it rained. MY 2012 19 ft Jayco has three windows and a door , that old 22 ft trailer had ten windows and a door . I agree our new manufacturers are going cheap route and expecting us to use the AC .
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:55 PM   #12
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More like people expecting them to give us A/C; not them expecting us to use it. When given the option, how many people tick the "delete A/C" option and save a few bucks? Single pane glass windows will let the cool air warm up much more rapidly than the insulated walls. A lot of glass = low A/C efficiency.


Our HTT has 4 windows with the bunks up, but open the bunk ends and I've got 10 of them, and the place is very bright and cheery and breezy indeed. Oh, and I have A/C but have yet to actually turn it on since the PDI.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:28 AM   #13
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Hi,

Less windows =

Less weight
Less thermal intrusion
Less possible places to leak
Less cost to the manufacturer
Less time to build the unit

It seems to me that the focus has changed over the years from building what the consumer wants, to building the least that the consumer will accept.

Sigh.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:24 AM   #14
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More like people expecting them to give us A/C; not them expecting us to use it. When given the option, how many people tick the "delete A/C" option and save a few bucks? Single pane glass windows will let the cool air warm up much more rapidly than the insulated walls. A lot of glass = low A/C efficiency.


Our HTT has 4 windows with the bunks up, but open the bunk ends and I've got 10 of them, and the place is very bright and cheery and breezy indeed. Oh, and I have A/C but have yet to actually turn it on since the PDI.
In other words because you have more windows , you don't need AC ,..... and so for those that at times use camper in bush with no electricity, having more windows than 3 is a major advantage ! Thanks for your example.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:30 AM   #15
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Sure, but the point is buy a unit that has what you need. Plenty of examples here of Jaycos with lots of light. If that is important to you, buy a floor plan with lots of windows. If it's not important then don't sweat it. I think in our model pretty much every available part of external wall has a window. Can't put windows where you have cabinets, fridges etc. About the only change I would make to mine is to move the roof vent from the bathroom to the main area of the floor plan. The roof on mine is pretty busy already, but I think I could fit one near the dinette.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:37 AM   #16
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Sure, but the point is buy a unit that has what you need. Plenty of examples here of Jaycos with lots of light. If that is important to you, buy a floor plan with lots of windows. If it's not important then don't sweat it. I think in our model pretty much every available part of external wall has a window. Can't put windows where you have cabinets, fridges etc. About the only change I would make to mine is to move the roof vent from the bathroom to the main area of the floor plan. The roof on mine is pretty busy already, but I think I could fit one near the dinette.
Some people are located where they have all the choices in the world , or the time to wait, others don't , either way the original poster had a very valid point that the number of windows has gone down dramatically , (eg no window in my bathroom even but easily room if manufacturer hadn't assumed the roof vent was enough for "venting the pleasantries of a bathroom" . But I see your Shi___ don't stink because you don't need a vent in your bathroom
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:04 PM   #17
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But I see your Shi___ don't stink because you don't need a vent in your bathroom
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:25 PM   #18
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thanks to everyone that has responded to my original post....one key point that I didn't really expand on, was that I bought this because it had a bad floor and the people weren't using it. I had driven by many times and finally stopped in to see it. I didn't really even consider when I would get to use it, and at the time noticed, but didn't really TAKE NOTE of whether I would ultimately like it or not. after all the time spent working on it and the year that i've owned it I realized how much I liked the older layout. I hauled the sunline (16 foot 9 windows )from boston all over the florida keys and back home and never even had an ac on the trailer. so, now I've decided I don't want it, and my thoughts really generated a whole bunch of different responses. if it sells I think I should just drive my ford E350 window van to see my son in san diego ...now THAT HAS WINDOWS !!
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:40 PM   #19
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Of course it's all relative to the size/model. The bigger rigs will naturally have more windows. Some have sliders as well.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:58 PM   #20
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yeah thanks ..that's my point , that on the older smaller models, they added windows, now it's not necessarily so..
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