Best Hitch for 2017 F150 5.5 box 2017 HT BHDS??

[vikefan7]

Quick question. I just bought a 2017 Ram 2500 diesel and am in the middle of purchasing a 29.5 BHOK. It has a dry hitch weight of 1695 pounds. My max payload sticker says 2109 pounds. Am i pushing it with even this truck? I weigh about 2 bills, wife, two kids and dog put it at about 5 bills total and i'm adding a pullright superglide which is 150 pounds. That puts me at about 2300 pounds or so. Should i be concerned?

Most of the comments on this thread are absolutely correct in the fact that nothing was mentioned that i would have to worry about towing this thing at all.

[JeremiahM]

If it squats, get some auxiliary help, otherwise your safe, over the legal limit per sticker, yes, but again still safe

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[Archie]

Originally Posted by vikefan7

Quick question. I just bought a 2017 Ram 2500 diesel and am in the middle of purchasing a 29.5 BHOK. It has a dry hitch weight of 1695 pounds. My max payload sticker says 2109 pounds. Am i pushing it with even this truck? I weigh about 2 bills, wife, two kids and dog put it at about 5 bills total and i'm adding a pullright superglide which is 150 pounds. That puts me at about 2300 pounds or so. Should i be concerned?

Most of the comments on this thread are absolutely correct in the fact that nothing was mentioned that i would have to worry about towing this thing at all.

My 2017 Jayco has a dry pin weight of 1520 lbs. but the real dry pin weight from the factory was 1678 lbs (options added). Lightly loaded ready to go my pin weight is 1800 LBS. plus the 600 lbs -hitch, (2) passengers, misc. I'm at 2400 lbs. I believe you will exceed 2400 lbs. My gas Chevy 3/4 has door sticker of 2733 lbs.

[Chrisb-24]

Check the Pullrite Superglide #3100, 12K out on U-Tube. I have this hutch and it's marvellous.

[FeatherFam]

Just curious what the OP, salesguru, did - new truck or smaller trailer? We cannot get into a bigger truck right now, and we may not ever want to. We may be in a MH by the time we get ready to move into something larger. So for now, we keep our eyes on units that are truly HT suited. Forget the marketing and sales pitches. Look at the door jam stickers. It is amazing how much misinformation there is out there. It does not take much to max out a HT.

[vcbice]

We have a dodge 2500 and the 29.5bhok.

Pin weight is around 1800 loaded. I am over weight by about 200lb. I also have Timbren overloads installed.

FWIW, your GAWR on the rear axle is well above that payload figure. The payload is figured for the 2500 springs.

But, I do not have a pullrite, just sliding hitch.

[Chrisb-24]

Hello,
I also have a Ride-Right Air bag system on my Chevy 1500 Crewcab. All is great on towing my new 2016 28.5 rsts 5er. There are so many suggestions out there. When it comes down to it, have a discussion with the man in your mirror and go from there.
Good luck in your decision!

[sean_cj7]

I just picked up our 2017 29.5 BHOK out in Ohio and hauled it 700 miles home to CT this past weekend with my 2000 F350, 7.3l. And while it towed it fine, and I'm under my payload capacity by a decent amount, I still had some questions. There is no way I'd ever tow one of these HT 5th wheels with a 1/2 ton truck. I can't possible image how that would tow. I have a Demco slider hitch and that certainly weighs a bit. I'd guess, full of fuel and passengers I'll be north of 2500 lbs of payload. Has me even thinking my old F350 is up to the task. Just my opinions.

[JeremiahM]

Originally Posted by sean_cj7

I just picked up our 2017 29.5 BHOK out in Ohio and hauled it 700 miles home to CT this past weekend with my 2000 F350, 7.3l. And while it towed it fine, and I'm under my payload capacity by a decent amount, I still had some questions. There is no way I'd ever tow one of these HT 5th wheels with a 1/2 ton truck. I can't possible image how that would tow. I have a Demco slider hitch and that certainly weighs a bit. I'd guess, full of fuel and passengers I'll be north of 2500 lbs of payload. Has me even thinking my old F350 is up to the task. Just my opinions.

Just curious, are you running any tunes or upgrades as far as turbo, injectors or anything?

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[Flapper]

Originally Posted by Sales_Guru

so much for the "half ton" towable B.S!! So, if I understand correctly, with 1502 lbs max payload I would have to subtract 650 lbs for passengers and gear, then 250 lbs for the slider, and ultimately ending up with only 600 lbs or so of payload capacity? Is that correct? Because if the 5th pin is 1800 lbs (loaded), what HT in the world could hold that much payload? Thoughts?

You have it right! My F-150 has the HD Payload package, so the sticker says 2166. With my old Jayco 26.5 RLS, I ended up 100-200 lbs overweight. Newer versions of that same trailer are 400 lbs more. That was territory I wasn't going to go to. And I was unable to find any new similar sized fifth that was any lighter. So now am towing a TT. But I sure miss that fifth....
I have not checked out the new aluminum F-150's, as they have more capacity with the HD Payload package...but they will still be right on the line....
Haven't seen a 1/2 ton yet that can carry anything bigger than the 23.5's fifth.

[vcbice]

Yes, advertising at it's best. Our old 24ft fiver was near our Tundra limits (1600lb payload) and it was over the limits of some of the Tundras.

Even if it made the weight limits I can't imagine trying to pull a 10k or 11k lb trailer with a 1/2T pickup. Even if the engine was capable there is the transmission to think about.

[sean_cj7]

I am currently running a Bank chip with the Bank transcommand. No changes the turbo or injectors. I just recently swapped in a John Woods valve body and the changes to the shifts are impressive. I'm going to be getting rid of the Banks stuff and going with some tunes from Power Hungry Performance. The truck did well on trip home, on the big hills it slows down, but overall I was very happy with how it handled the 5th wheel.

[vcbice]

Mine is run with stock power and I have not felt the need for more. Even on some long hills have not gone below 60mph and most are taken at my normal cruising speed of 65mph.

Heck, most of the time the cruise control is set at 65 and I don't have to do anything.

[sean_cj7]

I agree that most of the time it has all the power I need. There are couple hills that I see in my travels that have a grade that is a bit steep, and I drop down to 60. But overall I'm very content with the truck. The tunes are going to be more for shifting and such.

[JeremiahM]

Originally Posted by vcbice

Mine is run with stock power and I have not felt the need for more. Even on some long hills have not gone below 60mph and most are taken at my normal cruising speed of 65mph.

Heck, most of the time the cruise control is set at 65 and I don't have to do anything.

Yours is a 2009, plus a dodge. WAY more power in stock form than his 2000 7.3l

Originally Posted by sean_cj7

I agree that most of the time it has all the power I need. There are couple hills that I see in my travels that have a grade that is a bit steep, and I drop down to 60. But overall I'm very content with the truck. The tunes are going to be more for shifting and such.

I was just curious, I never was really happy with my 7.3l till I did bigger injectors and turbo (mine was a 96 though, so much smaller injectors than your 2000). My parents have an 02 7.3, which still isn't as good as my nodded 96, or my newer 06 6.0L, but holds its own. To keep from hijacking, if you ever have any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

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[vcbice]

ok, did not pay attention to year.

[SkiSmuggs]

Back to the original question; you do not need a slider with the Revolution. I towed my 10K fiver for 3 years over 20,000 miles and up and down the mountains of VT, NH, MT, CO with my 2011 Ecoboost and 5'7" bed. 90 degree turns were no problem with the Reese Sidewinder. If you get a Super Duty with 6.75' bed, it won't even be close.
The HD Payload package on that 2017 F150 would have given you a payload between 2300 and 2700 lbs, depending on trim and options.
Having towed with NA gasser, twin turbo gasser and turbo diesel, I would never have a tow truck without turbos.

[jamer]

I have a 2018 HT 28.5 RSTS on order and was going to pull with at 2014 F-150 Platinum 4x4 with tow package. My two cents says upgrade your TV to at least an F-250. You will need the extra load capacity with beefier springs and overall beefier truck. I hated to trade by F-150 but felt the truck just was not enough to haul the new HT 28.5. Went with a F-250 super duty lariat, gasser. Now I will feel safer towing and not worrying if I have enough truck.

[Packerbacker_TX]

Originally Posted by Sales_Guru

I've just purchased a 2017 Eagle HT BHDS and am planning on towing it with my 2017 Ford F150 Crew Cab 4X4 (EcoBoost) 5.5ft box (with Timbren SES's). The BHDS has a Revolution Pin Box so the dealer - and plenty of internet research - is suggesting that a standard (non-sliding) 5th wheel hitch is sufficient. However, I would REALLY like to hear from someone who actually has this setup because a friend is suggesting I will still need a slider for some tight spots (he bought a Demco Highjacker for his 2014 F150 5.5ft and 2017 HT BHOK).

Andrew

Sales Guru - Here's the short answer (after the fact):
The 5th wheel pin weight exceeds your F150's payload capacity and isn't safe to tow.
The long answer:
2017 Jayco Eagle HT BHDS - 8,425lbs. dry (10K lbs. gross) w/dry pin weight 1,610 lbs. (1,900 lbs. gross).
2017 Ford F150 SCREW short bed (145") w/Max Tow and 3.55 gears can pull 10K+ lbs. w/17K lbs. GCVW but payload is limited to about 1,500 lbs. w/o the Max Payload option. After you account for passengers/hitch weight/tools/spare tire/etc. you're left with even less payload capacity. The Timbren's will only help a tad with sag and sway. Something to keep in mind is aftermarket products never increase your payload capacity.

At the end of the day you have 3 options: A) Try it out and see what happens*. B) Get a different trailer. C) Get a bigger tow vehicle.

* Run 5'r dry - no water in tanks and little to no extras. Get B&W turnover ball w/Andersen adapter, leave extra stuff at home. You'll still be over GVWR but not as much.

Consider this.. you go for it and drive down the highway, some @-hole cuts you off, you crash into the vehicle in the next lane and someone ends up in the hospital or dies. Police find out you're overweight and you get a ticket. Insurance finds out and won't cover your losses. It's a lose-lose situation.
Don't feel too bad - I made the same type mistake!

[Bigpuddie]

Amdersen Ultimate Hitch!

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