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Old 10-06-2016, 09:35 AM   #1
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North Point Braking Issue

Good morning members!

Quick question concerning braking on my fifth wheel: this is our first fifth wheel, so have little to compare it to, but I feel that the braking is insufficient on the rig. I'm towing with the braking gain maxed out to 10 on my 3500, and yet, it feels like the trailer is pushing me a bit when stopping. Even in a gravel lot, when manually braking with our controller, I can't get the wheels to even attempt to lock up. I know it's a heavy rig, but one test I've done is hold the controller to full braking while stopped, take truck out of park, take foot off of brake, and rig still rolls forward a few feet before coming to a soft stop. This just doesn't feel right.

I squawked this at my dealer, who said they took it down the road and it felt fine to them. They also claimed they inspected the system and found nothing wrong with it, however I've since been under the RV and found the left rear brake electrical leads chaffed about 30% through. My most recent visit to the dealer, they made the repair on the leads, but braking hasn't improved.

Any ideas? I'll be testing my truck this afternoon, but wonder if anybody has experienced this on their 5er?
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Old 10-06-2016, 09:39 AM   #2
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There have been other threads where it seems the truck maker's brake controllers do not provide maximum power to the trailer's brakes.


Check the towing sub-forum.
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Old 10-06-2016, 09:41 AM   #3
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Yes I have. I went round and round with my dealer when my rig was new. Inspection of the brakes showed grease contamination of the shoes. Jayco and Dexter provided new brake assemblies and the replacement was covered under warranty.

My rig stops now as it should but don't expect a heavy fifth wheel to lock the brakes on pavement or even gravel. Mine are effective.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:10 AM   #4
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You have your truck set to Heavy Electric right? At 7.5 my rig stops well and I can achieve full lock up rolling with a slide of the override.

First I would start with the TV as some Ram controllers have been known to not put out enough voltage. See that your getting up to 13V on a full engage of the slide. Then push the pedal fully and see where is comes in at.

What I do to check my settings of the trailer is jack up one side and engage the override with the wheel spinning to check that each wheel is grabbing correctly. Then I set it down and do the pull test.

If your wheels are not locking up with no load then you have to pull a hub and see what's going on inside.
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Your tow vehicle may have a changeable setting for light electric, heavy electric, light hydraulic over electric, and heavy hydraulic over electric. My 2014 RAM has these settings, all changeable from the user screen. Make sure that you are on the correct setting.
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I'm definitely on heavy electric, and my gain is set at 10. Think I'll check the truck first as it sounds like maybe some history there, and then go after trailer troubleshooting. I'll let you all know what I find! Thanks for the input!
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I have not had any problems with braking, have gain set at 6.5 on my GMC, can lock up brakes when doing a manual override, my previous 5er had disc brakes, much superior to the drum brakes, all heavy 5th wheels should have disc brakes!!!!
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These brakes are forward adjusting, But mine I had to adjust myself, after a call to lippert they informed me that if they weren't adjusted properly the self adjusters will not adjust properly. Its easy to do :-)
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Yeah, I thought adjustment too at first, and the RV was going to dealer for other work so had them check it out. Their guy said everything was tight, so trusted that. Starting to not trust that they know much of what they claim...
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Good morning members!

Quick question concerning braking on my fifth wheel: this is our first fifth wheel, so have little to compare it to, but I feel that the braking is insufficient on the rig. I'm towing with the braking gain maxed out to 10 on my 3500, and yet, it feels like the trailer is pushing me a bit when stopping. Even in a gravel lot, when manually braking with our controller, I can't get the wheels to even attempt to lock up. I know it's a heavy rig, but one test I've done is hold the controller to full braking while stopped, take truck out of park, take foot off of brake, and rig still rolls forward a few feet before coming to a soft stop. This just doesn't feel right.

I squawked this at my dealer, who said they took it down the road and it felt fine to them. They also claimed they inspected the system and found nothing wrong with it, however I've since been under the RV and found the left rear brake electrical leads chaffed about 30% through. My most recent visit to the dealer, they made the repair on the leads, but braking hasn't improved.

Any ideas? I'll be testing my truck this afternoon, but wonder if anybody has experienced this on their 5er?
JetTech my brakes on my Pinnacle are exactly the same as yours and I'm also at 10 with my brake controller.
I ask my dealer ( who I will NOT go back to ) to check brakes and they are fine I was told.
I said can you adjust them??? We don't do that here.
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