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08-10-2016, 08:08 AM
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Scissor Jack Problems
On my 2013 Jay Flight 22FB, two of the scissor jacks are terribly difficult to crank down or up. The other two move easily.
I have tried WD40, then oiling the threaded piece - all to no avail.
Can anyone suggest a fix for this and what normal maintenance is good to prevent the binding and difficulty I am experiencing?
Many thanks!
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08-10-2016, 08:22 AM
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My husband accidentally tried to raise the hitch while the rear jacks were still down so they jammed a little and are now a bit difficult to move. He did spray WD40 and they work better now but we had considered trying to bend them where they were out of whack or even replacing them (which looked like it would be under $80.00).
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08-10-2016, 09:04 AM
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I spray mine with white lithium grease. I find it works better than wd40
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08-10-2016, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldfusion
I spray mine with white lithium grease. I find it works better than wd40
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08-10-2016, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Coldfusion
I spray mine with white lithium grease. I find it works better than wd40
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That's interesting. I used that and it made it worse. The lithium grease picked up all sorts of grime and dirt. I had to clean all of that off (what a pain!) and then used Silicone Spray. Seems to work better and stays on longer than WD40.
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08-10-2016, 10:44 AM
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Success!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldfusion
I spray mine with white lithium grease. I find it works better than wd40
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Took the white lithium grease spray and did a liberal squirting. Bazamm! All four now turn easily and smoothly.
Will likely take a wire brush to the threaded rod portion and wash down with some sort of solvent. Then re-coat with lithium when dry.
But the solve worked and will be a regular treatment.
Many thanks!!
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08-10-2016, 10:33 PM
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I use a "dry" film spray lube. It works well, repels water and solves the problem of attracting dirt. Anything oily and that close to the road elements are a bad recipe.
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08-11-2016, 10:04 AM
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Mine are electric and don't bind, but the rear ones scream like crazy. I've tried several lubricants, but they all just quiet them down about halfway until next time. I've never lifted the tongue with them down, and it was a special order, so not likely the guy at the dealership did something.
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08-11-2016, 10:41 AM
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<hijack>
I haven't had any binding problems yet, but the two rear stabilizers knock back and forth when going up or down. It doesn't look like the screws are bent or anything, so I don't know why.
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08-11-2016, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rootus
<hijack>
I haven't had any binding problems yet, but the two rear stabilizers knock back and forth when going up or down. It doesn't look like the screws are bent or anything, so I don't know why.
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Check the screws holding the stabilizers to the frame. There's not supposed to be any slop there.
On topic:
Check for crud in the gear-like stampings where the two sides engage each other. Clear all foreign matter from those zones. Use a dry lubricant to limit crud build up later.
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08-11-2016, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike837go
Check the screws holding the stabilizers to the frame. There's not supposed to be any slop there.
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Ha, that seems so obvious, not sure why I hadn't thought to look at the mounting bolts. As soon as I get back from India and grab the trailer, I'm going to do exactly that. Thanks!
On topic -- what dry lubricant works best? Graphite?
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08-11-2016, 11:24 AM
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kroil lubricant
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08-11-2016, 11:45 AM
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The front and/or back on RV's are stabilizers let not call them Scissor Jacks which create confusion. Yes they look like a Scissor Jack but they aren't!
Teflon liquid spray is another lubricant source which not attract dirt.
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08-11-2016, 12:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALJO
The front and/or back on RV's are stabilizers let not call them Scissor Jacks which create confusion. Yes they look like a Scissor Jack but they aren't!
Teflon liquid spray is another lubricant source which not attract dirt.
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I'll argue that they are, in fact "Scissor Jacks". By design and construction.
However, I will personally slap anyone upside the head when they try to lift/level their RV with them.
"Stabilizers" is my preferred tem too, since the frame will bend if you try to use them as jacks.
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08-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Agree, another mis-used term by everyone and used interchangeably. I like Stablizer jack but often use the other term.
Very confusing, like tv and TV.
This thread may help some with questions. If you want to update the list in post#1 just post it and we will add it in.
http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f2...ms-2676-3.html
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08-11-2016, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cekkk
Mine are electric and don't bind, but the rear ones scream like crazy. I've tried several lubricants, but they all just quiet them down about halfway until next time. I've never lifted the tongue with them down, and it was a special order, so not likely the guy at the dealership did something.
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Exact same situation on my trailer. I've used every lubricant mentioned in this thread and have had no luck. They're LOUD. But they work just fine.
I'm thinking I will clean them off REALLY good and then try teflon or graphite again...
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08-11-2016, 02:08 PM
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I don't recommend any wet lubricants, such as greas or oil. Once or twice a year I spray on triflow a dry Teflon based lube. You could also try a spray wax for bike chains.
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08-11-2016, 03:44 PM
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Thanks for the tip to use a dry lubricant. I will change over.
I had a couple of stiff stabilizers so I sprayed down the threaded rod part with white lithium. Nothing changed they were still stiff.
I took a closer look and discovered I needed to lube the "washer?" that makes contact with the large "pin" that the threaded rod goes through. This is where all the pressure is. The threaded rod pulls the two large "pins" together causing the foot to go down.
This pic shows the front "pin" and silver colored "washer". There is a set just like it on the back side of the stabilizer that should be lubed as well.
Beware I did hear (here on JOF) about someone lubing their stabilizers so well they wouldn't stay up. Slowly by gravity and bumps they would unscrew themselves.
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08-11-2016, 05:23 PM
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Jhowemca; Beware I did hear (here on JOF) about someone lubing their stabilizers so well they wouldn't stay up. Slowly by gravity and bumps they would unscrew themselves.
This only can happen if not retracted fully tight on rough roads. So it is more operator fault than the stabilizer.
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08-11-2016, 07:41 PM
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I use a spray on lube for my stabilizer jacks I use with great results you may want to try it is available at Lowes.
It is called Super Slick Slick Stuff!
It does not attract dust or dirt.
From my experience this is GREAT stuff!
I also use it on the trailer ball and coupler.
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