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Old 04-03-2015, 02:09 PM   #31
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Another very important thing to remember ,is god forbid, you have an accident and you have a smart ins adjuster and he decides to weigh you complete rig, if its over weight guess what your ins does not pay. Larry
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:32 PM   #32
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Auto insurance pays even if you break the law. Also, there is no law to break. I don't advocate that people should pull more weight than whats designed into the vehicle but we should be making safety arguments and not legal ones. As far as I know there is not a single case that can be cited that supports all the claims that B pillar numbers are somehow legally binding. They are there for your safety and the manufacturers warranty.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:34 PM   #33
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Auto insurance pays even if you break the law. Also, there is no law to break. I don't advocate that people should pull more weight than whats designed into the vehicle but we should be making safety arguments and not legal ones. As far as I know there is not a single case that can be cited that supports all the claims that B pillar numbers are somehow legally binding. They are there for your safety and the manufacturers warranty.
That won't stop a civil suit though should there be an injury or death as a result of an accident.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:55 PM   #34
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Thinking about this further, without a WDH, would this not be considered a Class II situation with a maximum (by law) trailer weight of 3500 pounds?.

If this menace to life and limb would check his owners manual, he will see what can be towed legally!
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Old 04-03-2015, 07:42 PM   #35
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That won't stop a civil suit though should there be an injury or death as a result of an accident.
Nothing will if its your fault.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:25 PM   #36
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Nothing will if its your fault.
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Nothing can stop a civil lawsuit... even if it ISN'T your fault. It costs very little to sue someone else. There are erroneous lawsuits filed every day in most jurisdictions.


The person suing you would have to PROVE that you were overweight AND that being overweight was the direct cause of the damage AND that you intentionally were unsafe.

By the way, where are all these lawyers that respond to the scene of a wreck with scales and weigh all the debris? By the time a civil attorney is hired and has gotten a subpoena to weigh your rig its been days, weeks or even months since the wreck. Weights that long after the fact are hard to prove. People may have gained or lost weight, gear that was in the truck or trailer could be gone. A roof leak could have allowed water to saturate the building materials of the trailer and increased the weight beyond what it was at the time.



On the other hand, you can be sued even if all your numbers are below spec and you were below the speed limit.

In other words, its all internet hyperbole. Your friend is making a poor decision trying to tow without the correct equipment though. Its pretty unlikely he is involved in a collision and gets sued. It is far more likely that he has a terrible time towing and doesn't enjoy camping as a result. Personally, its not worth it. Camping is supposed to be fun and relaxing. If my drive is terrible and I am scared to death driving, I will be too stressed to enjoy my stay.
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First time he needs to dynamite the brakes with the trailer in tow and no brake controller or WDH, he will likely find the trailer buried halfway inside his Trailblazer with the tailgate sitting next to him.

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I think that is way too big of a trailer for that TV. If you need to stop quickly you are going to have issues, if you are in high winds you are going to have issues...its going to work real hard. But I guess you could tow it but I wouldn't and just because you CAN doesnt mean you should.
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