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Old 04-26-2015, 01:41 PM   #31
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Based on RAM s website, overall payload for a 2015 Ram outdoormans, crew cab, 6ft4 bed and 4x4, with the 3.92 axle, payload is 1150, which includes a 150 lbs driver, so overall payload including driver is 1300 lbs... with my tongue weight on 600 lbs and 500 lbs for all occupants, it only leaves me with 200 lbs for whatever I want to carry in the bed, not much but I usually don't carry that much in camping gear, other than the weber BBQ, a 20 lbs propane tanks and some miscellaneous. May still go for the ecodiesel in the end.
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Old 04-26-2015, 02:45 PM   #32
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Check the sticker on the actual truck you are looking at. When I was looking at them the actual rated payload was much lower than the website due to added features etc.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:08 PM   #33
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I think I should be fine, my 2009 F-150 supercrew 4x4 apparently only has 1480 lbs of payload, not a whole lot more than the Rams, 1270!
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:05 AM   #34
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Further research allowed me to find out that the new SAE J2807 standard calls for a GVWR that includes a 150 lbs driver and a 150lbs passenger, so that would mean that whatever payload that the Cie advertises, includes everything else.

That Dam Towing Test: New SAE Trailering Standards Explained - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

Makes a big difference if you already have 300lbs of calculated passenger weight outside of the publicised payload. Does it mean that the 1270 lbs for my specific setup are on top of the included 300lbs? That would be great!
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:32 AM   #35
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Further research allowed me to find out that the new SAE J2807 standard calls for a GVWR that includes a 150 lbs driver and a 150lbs passenger, so that would mean that whatever payload that the Cie advertises, includes everything else.

That Dam Towing Test: New SAE Trailering Standards Explained - Tech Dept. - Car and Driver

Makes a big difference if you already have 300lbs of calculated passenger weight outside of the publicised payload. Does it mean that the 1270 lbs for my specific setup are on top of the included 300lbs? That would be great!

But the SAE standard does not account for the weight of extra features. Yes, the 1270 includes 150lb driver and fuel. But it does not include the diesel engine weight, chrome bumpers, upgraded interior cloth, rubber floor mats, upgraded center console etc. All that stuff adds up quickly. Like I said, when I went out and actually looked at the sticker on the the trucks I was shocked how low the rating was. Now, the 2015s may be different, I only looked at the '14s. The F150 Ecoboost I bought has an ACTUAL payload capacity of nearly 1,000lbs more than the equivalent Ecodiesel I was looking at.
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:30 PM   #36
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But the SAE standard does not account for the weight of extra features. Yes, the 1270 includes 150lb driver and fuel. But it does not include the diesel engine weight, chrome bumpers, upgraded interior cloth, rubber floor mats, upgraded center console etc. All that stuff adds up quickly. Like I said, when I went out and actually looked at the sticker on the the trucks I was shocked how low the rating was. Now, the 2015s may be different, I only looked at the '14s. The F150 Ecoboost I bought has an ACTUAL payload capacity of nearly 1,000lbs more than the equivalent Ecodiesel I was looking at.
This really is similar to Travels trailers then where the dry weight does not include AC unit, microwave, and other optional accessories that the dealers could add after the fact.

I will make sure to check these stickers for sure. Will report my findings here.

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Old 04-28-2015, 10:39 AM   #37
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The 2015 RAM 1500 Towing chart is easily found online.

Crew Cab 4x2 short box is listed as 1540lbs payload
Crew Cab 4x4 short box = 1340lbs

Crew Cab 4x2 long box = 1480lbs
Crew Cab 4x4 long box = 1270lbs

Keep in mind this is for the absolute base model vehicle. blderman sums it up nicely with all the additions.

As an example I will use my Ford F250. If I look up its payload capacity online it would be 3040lbs.
Door sticker reads 2748lbs
Actual payload (from scale) is around 2400lbs after adding all the stuff that typically gets added to trucks.

undercoating
spray in bedliner
floor mats
tow rope
jumper cables
tonneau cover
any dealer added options (running boards that werent' factory installed)
first aid kit
fire extinguisher
tool kit

I think I have everything except the last two items in my truck and I am 600lbs down from the advertised payload capacity and this is on a XLT model. Step up to the Lariat, King Ranch, or Platinum and it gets worse.

Hope that helps.
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Old 04-29-2015, 12:57 PM   #38
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The 2015 RAM 1500 Towing chart is easily found online.

Crew Cab 4x2 short box is listed as 1540lbs payload
Crew Cab 4x4 short box = 1340lbs

Crew Cab 4x2 long box = 1480lbs
Crew Cab 4x4 long box = 1270lbs

Keep in mind this is for the absolute base model vehicle. blderman sums it up nicely with all the additions.

As an example I will use my Ford F250. If I look up its payload capacity online it would be 3040lbs.
Door sticker reads 2748lbs
Actual payload (from scale) is around 2400lbs after adding all the stuff that typically gets added to trucks.

undercoating
spray in bedliner
floor mats
tow rope
jumper cables
tonneau cover
any dealer added options (running boards that werent' factory installed)
first aid kit
fire extinguisher
tool kit

I think I have everything except the last two items in my truck and I am 600lbs down from the advertised payload capacity and this is on a XLT model. Step up to the Lariat, King Ranch, or Platinum and it gets worse.

Hope that helps.
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I will definitely pay attention to all of these addendums. I took a look at my door sticker (F-150 2009, 4X4, crew, 6.5ft bed) as I thought I had at least 1500 lbs of payload, but to my surprise it said 1298 lbs, not too far away from the 1270lbs of the RAM I am considering. Will make sure to count in all other items but I remain hopeful!
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Old 05-27-2015, 08:27 AM   #39
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I just ordered mine finally. Will keep you posted!
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